exalted triggers, stacking & the math

Asked by griffstick 8 years ago

im so confused if there's 7 exalted triggers, how is it any more the +7/+7 to rafiq. why is it +43/+43. somebody please elaborate how exalted stacking works! i have Rafiq of the Many, Sublime Archangel, and 5 copies with Rite of Replication. when rafiq attacks alone exalted triggers happen. start from when rafiq attacks and please explain this to me how this works with detail.

Trockenmatt says... Accepted answer #1

On Sublime Archangel, it says that each instance of Exalted triggers seperately, so if you have 6 of them, each of the 6 would have 6 cases of Exalted, making it 36 right there. Then, Rafiq has 7 (the one he started with + the 6 from the angels) making it 43 cases total. So, you attack with Rafiq, all 43 cases of Exalted go on the stack, and when everything is said and done, he gets +1/+1 43 times, or more simply, +43/+43.

July 3, 2015 4:09 p.m.

griffstick says... #2

i get it so your saying if i control 6 creatures that say "creatures you control have exalted" then it looks like this on the stack when a creature attacks:

creature attacks triggers stack.

Sublime Archangel 1. exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted. making 7 instances of exalted cause of rafiq's extra exalted from the angel

Sublime Archangel 2. exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted. making 7 instances of exalted cause of rafiq's extra exalted from the angel

Sublime Archangel 3. exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted. making 7 instances of exalted cause of rafiq's extra exalted from the angel

Sublime Archangel 4. exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted. making 7 instances of exalted cause of rafiq's extra exalted from the angel

Sublime Archangel 5. exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted. making 7 instances of exalted cause of rafiq's extra exalted from the angel

Sublime Archangel 6. exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted. making 7 instances of exalted cause of rafiq's extra exalted from the angel

Rafiq of the Many. exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted, exalted. making 7 instances of exalted cause of rafiq's extra exalted from the angel + 1 more instance of exalted to himself. 8

thats +7+7+7+7+7+7+8=53 to rafiq of the many as a 3/3 geting +53/+53 making him a 56/56 double strike.

i believe this is correct stack order. but if there's no Sublime Archangel and say i just have 6 creatures with exalted like Knight of Glory then its +6/+6 to rafiq?
July 3, 2015 4:51 p.m.

Slycne says... #3

The math is slightly off since it's "other creatures". With 6 Sublime Archangel each one has one instance of exalted itself, plus 5 instances of exalted from the other Sublime Archangels. So each Sublime Archangel is 6 instances of exalted, and Rafiq of the Many has 7 instances, one for himself and 6 from the Sublime Archangels. So 43 exalted triggers would go on the stack.

If you had 6 Knight of Glory it's 7 exalted triggers, one for each Knight of Glory and one for Rafiq of the Many.

July 3, 2015 5:03 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #4

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Also, if you must post an additional thread for whatever reason, I recommend starting with the game state and then asking the question from there so it's immediately clear what's going on. Otherwise, readers will get confused by your first few lines.

July 4, 2015 12:18 a.m.

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