Evolve

Asked by -Orvos- 6 years ago

If I have a Vigean Hydropon and a Cloudfin Raptor in play and I play a second Cloudfin Raptor and graft a +1/1 counter onto him will he cause the first cloudfin to evolve?

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #1

No. Graft is a triggered ability that uses the stack, so the second Cloudfin Raptor enters as a 0/1. Evolve means is "Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, if that creature's power is greater than this creatures power and/or that creature's toughness is greater than this creatures toughness, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature." Because that includes an intervening if clause, the new creature has to have greater power or toughness both when it enters to trigger the ability and when the ability resolves for the counter to be added.

April 30, 2017 10:42 p.m.

chosenone124 says... #2

As a follow up, Evolve checks the creature's power to determine whether it triggers, and it checks it's power just before resolution to determine if it resolves as well right?

April 30, 2017 10:49 p.m.

-Orvos- says... #3

That's what it sounds like. Thanks

April 30, 2017 10:52 p.m.

Neotrup says... #4

Yes, but it's not often the creature's power or toughness will drop enough to make the trigger fail. Somewhat relevant is that when you have multiple creatures enter at the same time, you need to stack the evolve triggers so that the smaller creatures resolve first, as the evolving creature could grow to big for the trigger to resolve properly.

May 1, 2017 12:23 a.m.

chosenone124 says... #5

What if the creature dies before the Evolve trigger resolves? Does it check graveyard stats or does it just fizzle?

May 1, 2017 1:02 p.m.

Neotrup says... #6

It checks the last known information about the creature as it existed on the battlefield. If it died to a kill spell, you'll get the counter. If it died to a -X/-X spell, you won't.

May 1, 2017 1:15 p.m.

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