Tajuru Preserver and Butcher if Malakir Weird Situation

Asked by Randomsome1 5 years ago

How does Tajuru Preserver and Butcher of Malakir interact if they both die at the same time?

Actual Situation:

I activated Lord Windgrace 's -11, targeted Tajuru Preserver , Butcher of Malakir , and 3 creatures the Butcher player controls. It started a debate whether or not the Preserver's controller was still protected on not. We decided to just call the game a draw because it was 1:30am and we were all too tired to deal with it.

DrukenReaps says... #1

Because everything is dying simultaneously all effects are still in place. So the Preserver sees the Butcher and says no.

February 10, 2019 6:48 a.m.

Pieguy396 says... #2

Assuming the Preserver and the Butcher are controlled by two different players, I'm actually pretty sure it works the other way. The Tajuru Preserver only protects your stuff if it's on the battlefield when you would sacrifice the creatures. If it's destroyed by an ability that also destroys other creatures, it's in the graveyard by the time Butcher of Malakir 's abilities resolve, so you still have to sac creatures.

February 10, 2019 7:57 a.m.

pskinn01 says... #3

Here is what happens:
They all are killed.
The butcher sees itself and 3 other creatures die.
The butcher gets 4 triggers as it sees who dies.
Each opponent would sacrifice 4 creatures.
Since the preserver is no longer on the board. It wont stop the sacrifice ability.

February 10, 2019 10:06 a.m.

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #4

As Pieguy396 and pskinn01 have said the (previous) controller of Tajuru Preserver would also have to sacrifice creatures.

The important interaction is that Tajuru Preserver has a static ability that applies at all times when it is on the battlefield, and Butcher of Malakir has a triggered ability that goes on the stack and has to wait to resolve. Therefore; Tajuru Preserver is not on the battlefield and is protecting nothing when the sacrifices are to be made.

February 10, 2019 12:57 p.m.

DrukenReaps says... #5

Well damn... I'll have to pay a little more attention to this kind of interaction then.

February 10, 2019 4:52 p.m.

Randomsome1 says... #6

Ok, it seems like there has been a consensus. Thank you all

February 11, 2019 9:09 p.m.

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