Stacking additional combat steps?

Asked by Nuubi 3 years ago

So I’m testing playing a Boros deck I put together and this scenario came up. I wanted to know if the combat steps would stack if I have Moraug, Fury of Akoum and Aurelia, the Warleader on the board. The rulings on moraug are a little weird. Would I go to combat like normal, get Aurelia’s trigger, take that additional combat phase,then on my second main phase play a land to get the additional phase from moraug? Or could I play a land on my first main phase and just order the combat steps. I’m not sure how you would order it for this to work. And then to boot, what if I threw Port Razer into the mix and in this scenario he did combat damage to a player on the first combat step?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

Additional combat phase triggers are weird. Since untapping is not implicit in the creation of the phase the ability also has to provide for untapping. I will go over how each mentioned creature operates separately.

Moraug, Fury of Akoum untaps the creatures at the beginning of his combat phase. The most recently created step is taken first, so if he triggers in your main phase he will untap creatures at the start of the first combat you have and your (non-vigilant) creatures will only get to attack on one of the combat phases. The optimal play is to trigger Moraug on your second main.

Aurelia, the Warleader untaps the creatures when she attacks for the first time each turn. This means that they will tap to attack and then be untapped after attacks are declared and they will be able to attack on the additional combat that she creates.

Port Razer untaps the creatures when he does combat damage.

This means that if you have all three cards out you could have as few as two useful combat phases (Moraug untaps at beginning of his combat, Aurelia untaps on attack, Razer untaps on damage, all in the same combat phase. All creatures are tapped for Aurelia's combat phase and the normal one from the turn).

To speak directly to the question, you do not get to chose the order. The most recently created phase is always taken first.

November 26, 2020 11:24 p.m.

Nuubi says... #2

Alright, thanks! Appreciate the detailed response Gidgetimer

November 27, 2020 1:31 p.m.

I'm 3 years late but in this explanation I think I can trigger all 3 seperately. First combat attack with Aurelia while holding back Port Razer, just an attack trigger, so gets untaps and new round. 2nd combat - Attack with all, trying to trigger Port Razer with damage. If no instants or other tricks, he does damage give untaps and new phase. 3rd Combat Attack with all. all should be tapped and in a main phase, so we play land to trigger moraug for untaps and new combat. 4th combat swing all, our final combat with these cards.

IDK what I might be missing but just holding port razer back when triggering Aurelia should solve the overlapping triggers and maximize attacks. plus we hope to use up the blocks and/or combat tricks that may prevent Port Razor doing damage if they aren't on it.

May 1, 2023 2:22 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #4

You aren't missing anything, I just didn't explicitly explain how to get maximum useful combat phases. Holding back Port Razer on the first combat that Aurelia, the Warleader attacks on is the way to maximize combat phases. Assuming no blocks on any combat phase you could get a number of combats equal to two plus the number of landfall triggers plus the number of opponents you have. One from the rules of the game, one from Aurelia, combats equal to opponents from Razer, combats equal to landfalls from Moraug.

May 1, 2023 5:40 p.m.

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