Rally the Ancestors
Asked by Pheonix11235 9 years ago
Rally the Ancestors says to exile creatures at the beginning of your next upkeep. Can you use tap abilities before they are exiled? Also if creatures are returned to you hand and re-casted before your next upkeep then do you still exile them?
ShamaLamaDingDong says... #2
Honestly, Rally the Ancestors is a pretty terrible card.
February 1, 2015 2:35 p.m.
You would be able to use tap abilities because Rally the Ancestors creates a delayed trigger which you can put on the stack and respond to with tap abilities and so on. This does take into account you casting it on your turn, but you won't be able to use the tap abilities until your next upkeep, when you are supposed to sacrifice them.
And yes, you can bounce them to your hand and not have to exile them. I had an opponent do that with Temur Sabertooth so he could "save" his creatures from being exiled.
February 1, 2015 2:41 p.m.
filledelanuit says... Accepted answer #4
To be a little more specific about this.
Rally the Ancestors returns the creatures to the battlefield and creates a delayed trigger for that exiles the creatures at the beginning of the next upkeep.
So at the beginning of your next upkeep the trigger will go on the stack and then you will have a chance to use their tap abilities.
If they are returned to your hand or flickered with a card like Cloudshift they become new object. Because they are new objects the delayed trigger will not do anything.
February 1, 2015 2:51 p.m.
djlindyswag you're incorrect in both regards. If he casts Rally the Ancestors during his oppononents turn he could use tap abilities in his upkeep in response to the exile trigger. Also if a creature leaves the battlefield it becomes a new object with no relation to its previous existence so it won't be exiled since it is a new object from a rules standpoint although it's the same physical card.
February 1, 2015 2:58 p.m.
filledelanuit says... #6
@magicnerd0815 It doesn't matter when you cast Rally the Ancestors because it triggers during your next upkeep not the next upkeep. If you cast it on your turn you just have to wait longer to use their abilities.
February 1, 2015 3:02 p.m.
Pheonix11235 says... #7
Follow up question, what if you tap Humble Defector? Your opponent gets control of the creature but does it still get exiled?
February 1, 2015 4:40 p.m.
filledelanuit says... #8
Yes, Humble Defector will get exiled. Changing control doesn't make a creature a new object.
February 1, 2015 5:07 p.m.
lordoftheshadows youre right for some reason thought it was the next upkeep, not your next upkeep.
ShamaLamaDingDong says... #1
The card doesn't say they have haste, so no you cannot tap them. And yes, those creatures would still be exiled because the card says "exile those creature at the beginning of the next upkeep". Hope that this helped.
February 1, 2015 2:35 p.m.