Question about Treasure Cruise
Asked by Ian919 9 years ago
I have a question about treasure Cruise how does delve work on this card, can you self exile cards with out say casting a exile card on it. Also is the card banned in tournaments I'm looking to add it to my deck.
You exile cards from your graveyard to cast it. Each one pays for 1 colorless, and you can cast it for its full mana cost as well. It is banned right now in LITERALLY every format, and out of standard starting tomorrow at midnight, so its a good idea to not play it.
April 7, 2016 4:48 p.m.
Treasure Cruise is banned in both modern and legacy, restricted in vintage. Only commander can play it if I'm correct.
Delving cards away is part of the casting cost so you don't need to directly tell them what your doing, however they will make the connection when you put the spell on the stack.
It's essentially U:draw three cards, which is Significant in the right deck. There's a card called Ancestral Recall, look up the price and ability of this card and you'll understand why this was banned.
April 7, 2016 4:50 p.m.
Wow Ancestral Recall you use one to get 3. Its the same with treasure cruise then if your graveyard doesn't matter to how you play. Are there any standard cards that allow you to drawl a card at a "low cost" the ones I've seen seem to cost a good deal of mana to use.
April 7, 2016 5:18 p.m.
It's not "the same" with Treasure Cruise. You need seven cards in your graveyard to cast it for one mana. So, the graveyard matters very much in playing it.
And nope, there aren't any Standard-legal cards that let you draw more than one card for a low mana cost. And there likely won't be. Cards that let you do that tend to be problematic in eternal formats, which have a much higher power level overall, let alone in Standard. Painful Truths is as good as it gets.
April 7, 2016 5:40 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #6
@ ZeGinger
Little Nit pick:
In order to begin the process of casting a spell, you must first propose said spell, moving from its current zone on to the stack, thus revealing your intentions to all players. Then the costs are paid (including delving). Unfortunately, you can't be sneaky and start exiling cards from your graveyard without people knowing what ability/cost/effect is allowing/making you do so.
601.2. ...Casting a spell includes proposal of the spell (rules 601.2ad) and determination and payment of costs (rules 601.2fh).
601.2a To propose the casting of a spell, a player first moves that card (or that copy of a card) from where it is to the stack. It becomes the topmost object on the stack.
I know that I would be confused/irritated as my opponent started picking and exiling cards from their graveyard for no reason. Without telling me for what reason they're doing it.
April 8, 2016 12:58 a.m.
@Raging_Squiggle
Since no player can do anything during the casting of a spell, except for the active player activating mana-abilities and paying costs, the cases where order of exiling and putting the spell on the stack matter are so rare as to not exist. Can't actually think of a situation from the top of my head.
So if your opponent starts exiling cards all of a sudden then you know it's for delve or some other additional or alternate cost and you can't do anything anyway before the spell is on the stack and you receive priority so getting irritated over it is a waste of time. Out of order sequencing is perfectly allowed by tournament rules as long as the ending gamestate is legal and none of the actions depend on other actions happening in a certain sequence.
April 8, 2016 3:10 a.m.
@Raging_Squiggle while I understand the meaning of the rule, the delve itself is part of the casting cost so no one can respond to it with anything other than tapping to add mana to their pool. Thats what I was getting at. Yes it's courteous to let them know what you did, but for all Intensive purposes they cannot respond to this action, same reason why Soulblast is such a good combo with Omnath, Locus of Rage.
@Draugo -3-)b
April 8, 2016 4:02 a.m.
shinobigarth says... #9
if they're blue and its any format besides vintage, they likely wont be delving, since both Dig and Cruise are vintage restricted.
JWiley129 says... Accepted answer #1
Treasure Cruise says that you can exile up to 7 cards from your graveyard to help cast it. So you could cast it for as little as
mana and 7 cards from your graveyard.
Unfortunately Treasure Cruise is banned in every format, restricted in vintage, and about to rotate out of Standard. So playing it in a tournament means that you'd have to play Vintage.
April 7, 2016 4:48 p.m.