Propaganda and Geist of St Traft
Asked by jfletch 12 years ago
If I control a Propaganda and my opponent iss attacking with a creature that cheats another creature into play (e.g. Geist of Saint Traft, Hero of Bladehold]], Kaalia of the Vast), do they have to pay the two mana for the extra attackers that came out tapped and attacking, or just the original 2 to send the first attacker at me? Does the same thing apply for Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs or is it different because paying 3 is optional?
Thanks!
NobodyPicksBulbasaur says... #2
What he said.
Propaganda triggers when you declare an attack. Because Geist of Saint Traft's token is already attacking when it enters the battlefield, Propaganda never sees it declare an attack, so it won't trigger.
May 2, 2012 3:17 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #3
Another thing that is in a similar vein is if you attack with just Mr. Traft he will trigger exaulted (a mechanic that deals with "if a creature attacks alone it gets...")
May 2, 2012 4:35 p.m.
GoblinsInc says... #4
Nitpick: propoganda is not a triggered ability. But things still work as has been said.
May 2, 2012 5:46 p.m.
BrokenZygoma says... #5
The cost from Propaganda prevents creatures from attacking without paying the cost. Since the angel comes in attacking, it circumvents that additional cost. Same would be true with Kaalia of the Vast.
Emrakool says... Accepted answer #1
No extra cost would have to be payed for the angel token.
508.4. If a creature is put onto the battlefield attacking, its controller chooses which defending player or which planeswalker a defending player controls it's attacking as it enters the battlefield (unless the effect that put it onto the battlefield specifies what it's attacking). Such creatures are "attacking" but, for the purposes of trigger events and effects, they never "attacked."
May 2, 2012 7:57 a.m.