phasing vs "for as long as ~ remains"
Asked by Coward_Token 1 year ago
Alice has a Kitesail Larcenist that's turned at least one other permanent into a Tresure trough its ability.
Alice also has a Teferi's Veil. She attacks her opponent with the Larcenist.
What happens to the Treasure'd permanent when the Larcenist phases out, and then phases back in later on?
Coward_Token says... #2
Thanks. Looking at some other opinions on the matter, it seems to be correct:
https://cantrip.ru/en/mtg-cards/Phasing.shtml
https://blogs.magicjudges.org/ftw/returning-mechanics-review/phasing
Oubliette also got the following rules notes for its update:
"Any continuous effects with a "for as long as" duration such as that of Awakener Druid ignore phased-out objects. Any such effects will expire if their conditions are no longer met after ignoring the phased-out objects."
wallisface says... Accepted answer #1
I believe this rule is applicable:
”702.26f Continuous effects that affect a phased-out permanent may expire while that permanent is phased out. If so, they will no longer affect that permanent once it’s phased in. In particular, effects with “for as long as” durations that track that permanent (see rule 611.2b) end when that permanent phases out because they can no longer see it.”
The wording there isn’t super clear - but I take this to mean that when Kitesail Larcenist phases out, those chosen permanents stop being treasures, and will remain being non-treasures even when Kitesail Larcenist phases back in.
November 8, 2023 9:43 p.m.