Panharmonicon + Anointed Procession / Parallel Lives
Asked by kozad 6 years ago
So, let's say Panharmonicon+Anointed Procession are on the field and I cast Breya, Etherium Shaper
- She comes in, drops 4 thopers from the Panharmonicon triggering her ETB an additional time, then those thopers are doubled by Anointed Procession from 4 thopers to 8 thopters.
Do the additional thopter tokens from Anointed Procession trigger Panharmonicon again? And if so, does this cause an infinite amount of tokens?
Specifically how this plays out is Breya, Etherium Shaper enters the battlefield and Panharmonicon causes her ETB trigger to be put on the stack twice. The stack is now two copies of Breya's ETB. If there are no responses one copy resolves, tries to create two 1/1 blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying, sees Anointed Procession, and creates four 1/1 blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying instead. Assuming nobody responds again, the other copy of Breya's trigger resolves once again tries to create two 1/1 blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying, sees Anointed Procession, and creates four 1/1 blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying instead. The end result is eight 1/1 blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying, and a thankful you because had it gone infinite the game would have drawn unless you had enough mana or a sacrifice outlet to stop things from being infinite.
April 25, 2017 1:35 a.m.
Ah, I think I understand now. So, it is not the tokens entering the battlefield which is triggering Anointed Procession but rather the mere creation of said tokens. So, the additional tokens from Anointed Procession would not trigger Panharmonicon, as it is not an ETB effect, but simply a static copy effect.
April 25, 2017 12:48 p.m.
Neither Anointed Procession nor Panharmonicon trigger. They both have static replacement effects.
They both look for an event, which is the first clause. If they see the event, they modify it which is the second clause.
April 25, 2017 1:01 p.m.
Ah! Thank you both for clarifying! I was worried about a combo effect that I did not want - as it is, no one wants to play against Breya, no need to make her worse, haha.
acbooster says... Accepted answer #1
Panharmonicon does not interact with either Anointed Procession nor Parallel Lives.
Both Anointed Procession and Parallel Lives have a replacement effect that changes a specific event. In this case, the event is one or more tokens being placed onto the battlefield. If they were triggered abilities, they would read, "Whenever one or more creature tokens enter the battlefield under your control, create X more where X is the number of tokens that entered."
This alone would mean it goes infinite with itself, and we can't have a card that does that. So instead it simply sees tokens about to enter the battlefield, and makes twice that many instead.
April 24, 2017 9:41 p.m.