Obeka Stack Interactions
Asked by Pedrodamus 2 years ago
Let's say I'm on my second turn off a Final Fortune. I proceed to combat and trigger Myriad off a Broodbirth Viper and end the turn with Obeka, Brute Chronologist before the end of combat to keep the myriad tokens. Does ending the turn at end of combat delay the Final Fortune trigger until my next turn's end step, or does ending the turn with Obeka during combat immediately put any and all end of turn triggers on the stack and I need to find another way to end the turn before those resolve and I lose the game?
To clarify the above response, Final Fortune triggers at the beginning of that turn's end step. When you end the turn via an effect, you skip the end step entirely and proceed to the cleanup step. The trigger condition for Final Fortune will never occur.
February 18, 2022 11:41 a.m.
Pedrodamus says... #3
Lanzo493 That makes sense. So let's say I end my turn during combat and I had some Amphin Mutineer encore tokens. Since I skipped that end of turn that will then trigger on the next turn's end step and I'll have to sac them unless I find a way to end the turn then?
February 18, 2022 11:48 a.m.
Yes. They will trigger the next time an end step happens. You have to end the turn in response to the trigger to keep those tokens in play (or otherwise counter the trigger; an Obeka deck relying on this stuff should probably have a few more ways to stop triggers in the deck).
Lanzo493 says... Accepted answer #1
TLDR: you won’t lose the game.
Final Fortune has a delayed trigger that will go on the stack once you enter the end of turn step on the turn it gave you. If you end the turn early (like during combat) with something like Obeka, you skip the end of turn step entirely and it will never trigger. The reason Obeka decks generally wait for the end step to begin naturally before ending the turn artificially is because of cards that trigger at the beginning of the NEXT end step will end up being delayed to the next person’s turn (Final Fortune triggers at the beginning of THAT turns end step, so it’s specific to that one then and not just any turn in general). Ending the turn to keep the Myriad tokens will work while also preventing any extra turn deaths.
February 18, 2022 11:31 a.m.