Mimeoplasm and Corpsejack Menace

Asked by gmac1993 11 years ago

Lets say I cast The Mimeoplasm and choose to exile a Corpsejack Menace and a 3/3 creature (it doesn't matter what the other creature is).

Would The Mimeoplasm come into play with three +1/+1 counters and the Corpsejack's ability, or would it come in with six +1/+1 counters and the Corpsejack's Ability, due to counters being doubled?

gmac1993 says... #1

Let me clarify that I chose to take the Corpsejack's ability, and take the counters equal to power of the other creature.

December 15, 2013 1:17 p.m.

Devonin says... #2

When a creature enters the battlefield with counters on it, the game is technically putting it onto the battlefield and then adding the counters (Though it happens all at once in a way you can't respond to) so the ability it stole from Corpsejack Menace will work, and it will enter with 6 counters.

December 15, 2013 1:18 p.m.

Devonin says... #3

(This is also why things like Master Biomancer say "Each other creature enters" and not "Each creature enters" or it would give counters to itself.

December 15, 2013 1:19 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #4

This creature only enters the battlefield with 3 +1/+1 counters. A replacement effect in the ability of a creature can only modify how it enters the battlefield if that ability only applies to itself. The ability on Corpsejack Menace applies to a broad class of objects beyond itself, so it isn't taken into account as it enters the battlefield.

This is the same reason behind why a Tatterkite who gains Persist comes back from the graveyard with no -1/-1 counter, but a Melira, Sylvok Outcast who gains persist does get a -1/-1 counter as comes back.

December 15, 2013 2:35 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #5

Forgot to add: the game isn't technically putting the creature onto the battlefield first and then adding counters. The creature enters with the counters already on it. There's a special rule that specifically says this counts as "placing" the counters.

December 15, 2013 2:37 p.m.

xq948 says... #6

Please remember to answer a question to remove this from the unanswered queue.

December 15, 2013 4:45 p.m.