Is a creature with conditional power/toughness considered a 0/0 while it's in the graveyard?
Asked by 711Keaven 11 years ago
I have a Lord of Extinction in the graveyard. I then cast the Flesh side of Flesh / Blood with the Lord of Extinction as its first target and a 2/2 zombie token as its second target. Do I put 0 +1/+1 counters on the token or +1/+1 counters equal to the number of cards in all graveyards?
...and you answered my next question too! Now for another.
Is Wight of Precinct Six 's ability considered a CDA?
August 5, 2013 9:09 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #4
@linkofhyrule: You are correct.
4/15/2013: The number of +1/+1 counters is based on the power of the creature card as it last existed in the graveyard.
Wight of Precinct Six does not have a CDA. It has a static ability that functions on the battlefield. Remember that CDAs are characteristic-defining abilities. They set the characteristics of the objects in question. Wight of Precinct Six 's ability merely modifies an existing characteristic.
August 5, 2013 9:23 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #6
It's important to note that for a CDA dependent on a choice that's undefined while the creature is in the graveyard, the value does default to 0. Sewer Nemesis is a good example of this: while the card is in any zone other than the battlefield there's no "chosen player", so there's no way for the effect to get the information it needs to calculate P/T.
August 5, 2013 10:23 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
Last-known information. The information about a card as it last existed in a certain zone. For example, Aerie Ouphes 's ability uses the LKI of Aerie Ouphes as it existed on the battlefield for the purposes of determining how much damage to deal.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
Lord of Extinction has a characteristic-defining ability that sets its P/T. CDAs function in all game zones, so Lord of Extinction 's P/T will be the defined numbers no matter where it is. Note that Lord of Extinction won't count itself as being in a graveyard for Flesh / Blood 's effect because it's exiled.
August 5, 2013 8:27 p.m.