If I remove the +1/+1 Counters from Lands Targeted by Awaken, is the Land Destroyed?

Asked by MERSiOfficial 7 years ago

If have a Forest with 4, +1/+1 counters on it, but I want to use Bioshift to move them to a Setessan Oathsworn for Example.

Is the land destroyed from the removal of all the counters, or does it convert back to a standard land?

My assumptions are that the land would be destroyed.

Many thanks in advance!

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #1

If the Forest is a 0/0 elemental creature as your question implies, it will be put into the graveyard for having 0 toughness. If your Forest is not a creatures and only has 4 +1/+1 counters by happenstance, you cannot target it with Bioshift. If your forest is a creature with base toughness greater than 0, it will survive the counters being moved and still be a creature.

If the Forest is a 0/0 elemental creature you can also use Bioshift to only move 3 of the counters so it survives with the 1 remaining counter. Setessan Oathsworn doesn't grow quiet as large, but you still trigger Heroic so it's getting 5 counters when all is said and done which is a pretty big boost for 1 mana.

October 8, 2017 2:28 p.m.

MERSiOfficial says... #2

I should have worded more specifically that if the land had been targeted by awaken previously, what would happen if all the +1/+1 counters were removed.

October 8, 2017 3:51 p.m.

DRACULA150704 says... #3

No. In your situation the Forest will not die because lands don't die from lethal damage. Also when using Bioshift you cannot target a land (only creatures) so you can't move the +1/+1 counters off of it.

October 8, 2017 10:28 p.m.

Neotrup says... #4

Lands don't die from lethal damage? Sweet, time to build a deck around Ambush Commander!

October 9, 2017 12:26 a.m.

DRACULA150704 says... #5

No lands do die from lethal damage but only when they are creatures. in the situation above MERSiOfficial didn't say that his land was also a creature

October 9, 2017 9:23 p.m.

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