If I clone a flipped werewolf, what happens when it flips back?
Asked by mellophone11 11 years ago
Say I cast Clone targeting Ravager of the Fells Flip , and then another spell. Both Ravagers will flip, does the cloned one turn into a Huntmaster?
StealthyGunnar says... #2
I don't know for sure. I'd like to guess "no." The Clone is a copy of Ravager, and Huntsmen is its own creature. We need someone who knows the rules on the case!
June 17, 2013 11:06 p.m.
hunter9000 says... #3
Only double sided cards can transform, if you copy either side of a werewolf, it's transform ability won't do anything, since there's no back side to transform into.
June 17, 2013 11:12 p.m.
beanofthesoy says... Accepted answer #4
If an effect copies a double-faced card, it copies the characteristics of whichever face is currently showing. It doesn't copy any characteristics of the other face.
The only objects that can transform are cards that physically have two faces. If a token or a card with a regular Magic back is instructed to transform, instead nothing will happen. Even if a token or non-double-faced card is a copy of one face of a double-faced card, it can't transform.
If a double-faced card becomes a copy of something else, the copied values will overwrite its characteristics for as long as the copy effect lasts, even if the double-faced card transforms. If a double-faced card that's copying something else is instructed to transform, it will do so, because the physical card has two faces, but its characteristics will still be those of whatever it's copying. This is true even if the object it's copying is one face of a double-faced card.
I got the answer here http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/157b
June 17, 2013 11:15 p.m.
It wouldn't turn into Huntsmaster, of course, but I do wonder if it would essentially "die" because if it must flip, and there is nothing to flip to, then it would be like an aura hitting a removed creature, perhaps.
June 17, 2013 11:39 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
beanofthesoy has the most complete answer. I'd just like to add that Clone doesn't target.
@vic: Read beanofthesoy's post. Any time an effect would attempt to transform (flipping is something else; see Nezumi Graverobber ) a permanent that is not represented by a DFC, that effect instead fails to transform that permanent. Other parts of the effect resolve as normal.
Sainted says... #1
I cant rmemeber that answer to this but i know there was a forum post on it a couple weeks ago
June 17, 2013 11:05 p.m.