Gaining control of a creature I already control
Asked by lil_cheez 7 years ago
Hey guys, so this came up in a game of EDH last week.
It's well know that if you gain control of a creature an opponent controls with effects like Control Magic it will be summon sick. That's why effects like Act of Treason also add haste to the mixture. Until this point we are okay.
Problem is: What if I gain control of a creature I ALREADY control? For example, I control a 10/10 Consuming Aberration that is not summon sick. Then I want to enchant it with Corrupted Conscience so it will be a one hit kill with infect. Does the Aberration became summon sick again as it become "under my control" one more time?
Thanks in advance.
Yiayiasboy3 says... #2
Summoning sickness deals with creatures that have left the stack, and are on the field until the next upkeep( except for moving into new zones) You gaining control of the creature does not re-cast it or move it any zones, so it doesnt have summoning sickness, and it has infect
January 22, 2018 10:39 a.m.
Yiayiasboy3, No, Summoning Sickness cares about none of those things.
It literally just cares about what pskinn01 said, that the creature has been under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep. (If the creature changes zones and comes back, it's a new object, and it hasn't been under your control long enough.)
Anyway, like pskinn01 said, the Consuming Aberration will not have summoning sickness.
January 22, 2018 10:54 a.m.
Yiayiasboy3 says... #5
sonnet666 my mistake. I believed summoning sickness was a static effect the creature revived when entering a new zone.
January 22, 2018 11:09 a.m.
Summoning sickness checks if the creature has been under your control since the beginning of your turn. Since the Consuming Aberration has been under your control since beginning of your turn even after being enchanted, it will not reset and can be used to attack immediately.
Also it is not a check for under your control since your last upkeep, but is since the start of turn, otherwise you can flash in a creature during your untap step and attack with it the same turn, which you can not.
Here's the actual rule updated in Jan 19:
Summoning Sickness RuleInformal term for a players inability to attack with a creature or to activate its abilities that include the tap symbol or the untap symbol unless the creature has been under that players control since the beginning of that players most recent turn. See rule 302.6. See also Haste.
January 23, 2018 2:15 p.m.
wereotter, The reason you cannot flash a creature in during your untap step is because no player gets priority during the untap step, so no actions can be performed. No one can cast spells or activate abilities, no SBA are checked, and no triggered abilities are put on the stack.
- 502.3. No player receives priority during the untap step, so no spells can be cast or resolve and no abilities can be activated or resolve. Any ability that triggers during this step will be held until the next time a player would receive priority, which is usually during the upkeep step. (See rule 503, Upkeep Step.)
Beginning of your turn and beginning of your last upkeep are typically going to be synonymous, because it's near impossible for a permanent to enter the battlefield during the untap step. But yes, if you want to be technical, beginning of the turn is more correct.
Also it's better to quote the actual rule than the glossary term, since the glossary is informal:
- 302.6. A creatures activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost cant be activated unless the creature has been under its controllers control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. A creature cant attack unless it has been under its controllers control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the summoning sickness rule.
January 23, 2018 3:26 p.m.
shinobigarth says... #9
Cards no longer say beginning of turn they say upkeep instead, because thats the first time on a turn anyone gets priority for triggered abilities to trigger, and it helps avoid confusion for newer players about things happening during untap.
January 23, 2018 6:33 p.m.
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pskinn01 says... #1
Summoning sickness cares only that you have had it from the start of your turn or not. So it does not in this case.
January 22, 2018 10:36 a.m.