Clarification Beguiler of wills

Asked by LordofInfect 13 years ago

If I gain more creatures, do I lose control of the creature I took control of?I don't think so but just want to clarify

BigBruce says... Accepted answer #1

When in doubt search the gatherer!

http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=227080

From the oracle ruling, the 1st part is your answer :

1/22/2011 - The control-changing effect lasts indefinitely, even if the power of the creature becomes greater than the number of creatures you control after the ability resolves.

If you would lose control of the creature, the ability would have said so.

April 30, 2012 10:31 p.m.

Tyqar says... #2

So doin' something like DismemberMTG Card: Dismember on a fatty, then stealing him, would be totally legit.

April 30, 2012 10:53 p.m.

BigBruce says... #3

Yup it's perfectly legal, you just have to let DismemberMTG Card: Dismember resolves before activating Beguiler of WillsMTG Card: Beguiler of Wills

April 30, 2012 11:02 p.m.

BrokenZygoma says... #4

The card only requires that the creature have a power less than or equal to the number of creatures you control. It says nothing about the conditions needing to remain the same. You would only lose control if the creature was killed or a card like Homeward PathMTG Card: Homeward Path or any other creature control spell was used.

April 30, 2012 11:02 p.m.

BrokenZygoma says... #5

The card only requires that the creature have a power less than or equal to the number of creatures you control. It says nothing about the conditions needing to remain the same. You would only lose control if the creature was killed or a card like Homeward PathMTG Card: Homeward Path or any other creature control spell was used.

April 30, 2012 11:02 p.m.

BrokenZygoma says... #6

@BigBruce and of course the creature must still be alive.

April 30, 2012 11:04 p.m.

BigBruce says... #7

lol, of course :P

April 30, 2012 11:07 p.m.

LordofInfect says... #8

So can't someone doom blade it as an responce?

May 1, 2012 4:56 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #9

Priority always passes around the table before a spell or ability on the stack resolves. Yes, anyone can respond with a Doom BladeMTG Card: Doom Blade to kill the creature Beguiler of WillsMTG Card: Beguiler of Wills is targeting (killing the Beguiler itself won't counter its ability).

May 1, 2012 5:33 p.m.

BrokenZygoma says... #10

Yup, but once the ability is on the stack, It will resolve as long as the target remains legal. If Beguiler of WillsMTG Card: Beguiler of Wills said "as long as you control Beguiler of WillsMTG Card: Beguiler of Wills" then the effect wouldn't happen.

May 2, 2012 1:25 a.m.

LordofInfect says... #11

Awesome thanks for all the help

If you want go check out the deck that im putting her in

It's called [I'll take that xD (needs help

May 2, 2012 8:11 a.m.

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