Brago and master of waves, how does it work when master of waves is blinked?

Asked by SenorSebonia 8 years ago

I'm currently working on an alpha version of a brago deck. I've seen master of waves in almost every decks list. I'd assume that if Master of Waves is blinked (through brago's ability) all the tokens he had previously created would perish. People on reddit have stated that they wont because state based actions are not checked. Is this actually the case? If so is there any rule that I could site, I'd like to adequately be able to explain the interaction to my playgroup as to not cause an turmoil. Thanks for the answers in advance.

acbooster says... Accepted answer #1

They would not die. State Based Actions are checked whenever any player would get priority and only then. Since Brago, King Eternal brings the permanents back in during the resolution of his ability, you will temporarily have 1/0 tokens that will be 2/1's again when SBAs are checked after Brago's ability resolves.

This is also why cards like Wheel of Fortune don't kill creatures who have P/T equal to the number of cards in your hand such as Aeon Chronicler

June 13, 2016 4:47 p.m. Edited.

acbooster says... #2

Forgot you wanted a rule with it. Here's the relevant rule:

704.3. Whenever a player would get priority (see rule 116, Timing and Priority), the game checks for any of the listed conditions for state-based actions, then performs all applicable state-based actions simultaneously as a single event. If any state-based actions are performed as a result of a check, the check is repeated; otherwise all triggered abilities that are waiting to be put on the stack are put on the stack, then the check is repeated. Once no more state-based actions have been performed as the result of a check and no triggered abilities are waiting to be put on the stack, the appropriate player gets priority. This process also occurs during the cleanup step (see rule 514), except that if no state-based actions are performed as the result of the steps first check and no triggered abilities are waiting to be put on the stack, then no player gets priority and the step ends.

June 13, 2016 4:56 p.m.

Raging_Squiggle says... #3

Additional rule to peruse:

704.4. Unlike triggered abilities, state-based actions pay no attention to what happens during the resolution of a spell or ability.

Example: A player controls a creature with the ability "This creatures power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your hand" and casts a spell whose effect is "Discard your hand, then draw seven cards." The creature will temporarily have toughness 0 in the middle of the spells resolution but will be back up to toughness 7 when the spell finishes resolving. Thus the creature will survive when state-based actions are checked. In contrast, an ability that triggers when the player has no cards in hand goes on the stack after the spell resolves, because its trigger event happened during resolution.
June 13, 2016 5:47 p.m.

SenorSebonia says... #4

Thank you to both acbooster and Raging_Squiggle for your answers!

June 13, 2016 6:08 p.m.

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