Attacking and Attacks
Asked by demongod 11 years ago
Say I attack with Noggle Bandit and nijitsu with Mistblade Shinobi . The defending player takes one damage. If I have Raid Bombardment out, would the defending player take an additional 2 damage?
Say Kaalia of the Vast uses her OP ability to send out Aurelia, the Warleader tapped and attacking. Did she "attack," and you get another combat phase, or because she was "tapped and attacking" Aurelia's ability doesn't trigger?
Rhadamanthus says... #2
To "attack" with something is to declare it as an attacker at the beginning of the declare attackers step, and effects that trigger whenever something "attacks" are just talking about that action. A creature put directly onto the battlefield attacking does count as an attacking creature (for Ninjutsu, etc.), but it never "attacked". In your examples, Raid Bombardment doesn't trigger again for the Ninja and Aurelia, the Warleader doesn't trigger at all.
June 18, 2013 1:16 p.m.
CamperCarl00 says... Accepted answer #3
When a creature is put in "tapped and attacking" it will not be counted as that creature designating an attack. In the first example, Noggle Bandit triggers Raid Bombardment and then you Ninjutsu in Mistblade Shinobi when the opponent fails to designate a blocker. Mistblade didn't designate an attack, so it doesn't trigger Raid Bombardment .
In the Second example, Aurelia, the Warleader hits the field tapped and attacking, she as well, did not designate an attack and therefore doesn't trigger her ability.
Errata concerning this can be found on Hero of Bladehold where it states "Although the tokens are attacking, they never were declared as attacking creatures (for purposes of abilities that trigger whenever a creature attacks, for example)."
agGravity says... #1
No to be declared as an attackers it has to be in the Declare Attacker step, after your attackers are declared, you will trigger the Kaalia's ability. Same goes for Raid Bombardment . It only works when you declare the attackers.
June 18, 2013 1:13 p.m.