Are vehicles creature spells?
Asked by Monomanamaniac 3 years ago
Sonoma enough but is the Weatherlight a creature spell. Like say in the case of Whirlwind of Thought would I draw a card or not? I know it doesn't etb as a creature but I think it's still a creature spell
veritablecvn says... Accepted answer #2
Vehicles are not creature spells so you would draw a card off of Whirlwind of Thought. In order for a spell to be a creature spell, the spell has to have creature as a characteristic. Since vehicles such as Weatherlight do not have creature on their type line, they are not creature spells.
I've included some of the rules I used as reference during my research to answer your question as completely as possible.
601.2a To propose the casting of a spell, a player first moves that card (or that copy of a card) from where it is to the stack. It becomes the topmost object on the stack. It has all the characteristics of the card (or the copy of a card) associated with it, and that player becomes its controller. The spell remains on the stack until it’s countered, it resolves, or an effect moves it elsewhere.
109.3. An object’s characteristics are name, mana cost, color, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, abilities, power, toughness, loyalty, hand modifier, and life modifier. Objects can have some or all of these characteristics. Any other information about an object isn’t a characteristic. For example, characteristics don’t include whether a permanent is tapped, a spell’s target, an object’s owner or controller, what an Aura enchants, and so on.
205.2a The card types are artifact, conspiracy, creature, enchantment, instant, land, phenomenon, plane, planeswalker, scheme, sorcery, tribal, and vanguard. See section 3, “Card Types.”
205.2b Some objects have more than one card type (for example, an artifact creature). Such objects satisfy the criteria for any effect that applies to any of their card types.
208.3. A noncreature permanent has no power or toughness, even if it’s a card with a power and toughness printed on it (such as a Vehicle). A noncreature object not on the battlefield has power or toughness only if it has a power and toughness printed on it.
July 11, 2020 6:36 a.m.
The short of it is that Weatherlight and other vehicles are only creatures when their Crew ability is used, and they can only be Crewed when on the battlefield, as permanents. On the stack, they do not have the creature type and thus are not creature spells (the same applies to all other zones; they are not creature cards).
July 11, 2020 11:48 a.m.
Monomanamaniac says... #4
I need more vehicles in my kykar, winds fury deck lol. This it's going to be so awesome
Monomanamaniac says... #1
This is why I ask these questions, I don't think it is a creature spell and the interaction would work. I keep going back and forth
July 11, 2020 1:57 a.m.