"Standard is such a pit!"
Standard forum
Posted on June 29, 2014, 6:03 a.m. by Rugbyfh10
My friend just said this as he was getting out of bed. Followed by "So bad". Thoughts?
PasorofMuppets says... #3
I'm pretty bored by standard now too. I played variations of UWR Flash all of last season, and there just isn't a great equivalent at the moment.
June 29, 2014 6:26 a.m.
This is what happens come summer time for standard, it'll be exciting again post rotation. But for now, we have the established decks that dominate and everyone playing them, making if the same thing we did from march on.
I'm not worried about it in general, but I'm glad it's modern ptq season...
June 29, 2014 6:30 a.m.
Unfortunately Thero's didn't really change the meta too much when it came in. It created mono-B and U devotion, but most of the cards in play are ones from RtR block. Heck, UWx control is still using the exact same deck +/- like 10 cards at most.
Theros had some interesting mechanics, but they were underpowered in comparison with RtR block. Even worse, most of the cards from Theros block that do see a lot of play are from the theros set. BotG and Journey added very little to the meta. This has just caused standards meta to stagnate, which has made it kind of bland.
Personally I've been keeping myself entertained by making a new deck for almost every fnm for the past two months, but I understand that's not for everyone.
Hopefully Khans of Tarkir will shake things up a bit and introduce a fun new meta.
June 29, 2014 9:39 a.m.
Dalektable says... #6
Standard has gotten pretty stale to me. The counter argument is obviously "The meta is very diverse and healthy right now" blah blah blah which is true, in a sense. We do have a wide variety of decks, though I would argue we have a "top 4" decks of sort. The problem is that all these decks have been around for the majority of this standard season, with little to no change. Personally I am kinda done with standard, I'll occasionally take my white weenies build to FNM for a night but beyond that no. I'm just gearing up for next standard, I'm already working on a couple builds.
June 29, 2014 10:22 a.m.
I am a nostalgic person by nature. Meaning grows and distills and crystalizes in new ways over time for me and just tossing old favorites aside takes too much out of the game for me.
That being said, I think standard pre-release events and drafting events are worth while if the idea is like paying for dinner + movie and hanging out with friends. If I had more money, I would do that. But as it is, I like the formats that use older cards because I know I can take the initial investment and divide it out by a lot of months and years and justify the cost by saying but it only cost me $10 per month to play this game over the long run. Any hobby does cost something after all.
June 29, 2014 10:23 a.m.
Standard as a format, more so than any other, is characterized by the ever-changing meta and cardpool. The fact that we've had the same meta for so long runs counterintuitive to the entire purpose of the format as opposed to its eternal counterparts.
June 29, 2014 11:51 a.m.
Grimgrinner says... #9
I think Skraz1265 summed it up pretty well. The "top 4" decks of standard right now are so dominant that it's discouraging to try and shake them up. I'm personally a fan of R/G monsters, but it gets really boring playing against the same few decks. U/R looked like it was going to be viable for a while, but the actually useful spells were too over-costed, mostly for the sake of limited.
I think wizards has been choosing to actively fight power creep though, and Mark Rosewater (the lead designer) has said that Theros block was a "down swing of the pendulum". Meaning that the best cards in standard right now are all very low powered outside of it. This leads players (especially people who experienced higher power standard formats) feeling like their decks are all too weak, and they just aren't brewing up new decks.
June 29, 2014 11:52 a.m.
Quadsimotto says... #10
I guess I came back at a shit time. I have noticed that since the last rotation the amount of people playing standard format is steadily decreasing in the shop where i started back to playing. Modern night however seems very popular with the players i saw competing when i first went.
June 29, 2014 11:56 a.m.
Grimgrinner says... #11
No, you chose an interesting time to come back. m15 is going to have a number of exiting cards, most notably 3 good planeswalkers, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . There also seems to be a minor affinity theme too, because we're getting Ornithopter , Shrapnel Blast , and Darksteel Citadel .
If that's the caliber of things coming in Khans of Tarkir, then we could have a very revitalized standard season.
June 29, 2014 12:05 p.m.
I agree, now's a good time to come back. The rotation will bring in a lot of new players and bring back a lot of old players. It always does.
June 29, 2014 12:12 p.m.
Quadsimotto says... #13
I came back two FNMs before the last set rotated and man talk about a decline in the players when the older stuff went out. Cut nearly in half i would guess. Then when BNG that group got even smaller. i am not going to quit playing standard. Its where i feel i have my best shot at doing well because the playing field is pretty even when considering my card collection. I am horrible at modern but enjoy playing it because of the speed at which i am knocked out allows me time to go to the bar afterwards. M15 looks pretty sweet to me. I am eager to see what comes out next.
June 29, 2014 12:35 p.m.
Yeah, Khans of Takir will hopefully signal a new age, an age of fresh standard decks, constantly changing. No more Sphinx's Revelation (mind you, I like the card, just find it made control a little 'easy') or any other High-Power cards from Ravnica
June 29, 2014 12:43 p.m.
smithereen says... #15
In my opinion, the issue with Standard is that all of the powerful Theros mechanics were build-around. There is obviously some power in the Theros block (Grey Merchant anyone?), but mono-b and mono-u have about ten flex-slots between them. There isn't much room for flexibility outside of junk goodstuff or maybe monsters.
ChiefBell says... #2
I agree. Others don't.
Opinions - people have them.
June 29, 2014 6:24 a.m.