Does Disfigure Deal Damage?

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Posted on May 2, 2011, 5:18 p.m. by seevers35

If I cast and target a creature with Disfigure and my opponent casts Safe Passage , would the creature be killed?

Select says... #2

no RFC

May 2, 2011 5:27 p.m.

Justarsaus says... #3

yep because Disfigure changes the p/t of a creature it does not deal damage since Safe Passage prevents damage the creature would still be put into the grave yard as a state based action for have a 0 toughness

May 2, 2011 5:47 p.m.

KrimsonNekros says... #4

Yes the creature is still destroyed. Cards that deal damage specifically say deals x damage in their effects. When a card says target creature recieves -x/-x, it is a temporary effect that lasts until end of turn, not damage so cards such as Safe Passage will not stop it's effect.

May 2, 2011 5:54 p.m.

MagnorCriol says... #5

KrimsonNekros, you're correct in all areas but one: it's not destroyed; it's put into the graveyard as a state-based effect for having a toughness of 0 or less.

This is an important distinction because abilities like indestructible stop destruction, but not toughness-draining effects like Disfigure or -1/-1 counters.

A Darksteel Myr will survive a Pyroclasm or Wrath of God , but it won't survive an Instill Infection or Scar .

You're right the rest of the way, though. Safe Passage doesn't stop Disfigure , and it does end up in the grave next time SBAs are checked.

Also, Select, that's not a helpful comment, since nowhere on the card does it specifically say "this isn't damage". seevers35 clearly needed some explanation about the difference between damage and -X/-X or else he wouldn't have asked.

May 2, 2011 7:33 p.m.

scottschultz says... #6

And actually, he agrees with all of you. He was looking for support for an argument he was having with me. Thanks for your input.

May 2, 2011 8:01 p.m.

metalmagic says... #7

Nice Alliteration. If I could +1 Q&As, I totally would this one becaue of the previously stated reason.

May 3, 2011 4:52 p.m.

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