Introducing the Hero Format

Hero ianbrewman

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Thank you! —Aug. 20, 2012

This is for everyone who gave me a positive response on this format! Thank you tapped out for adding Hero to your official format section. I never expected that hero would pick up so well. Thank you all!

Vapor873 says... #1

I like this format idea a lot. My only concern is that it only seems to heavily favor tribal and possibly mill. It also doesn't seem to be able to go more than 2 colors but I would gladly be proven wrong. In any case I'll make a mill based deck and see how it plays out.

Here's a quick attempt at a UB Mill using Szadek, Lord of Secrets http://playtest.tappedout.net/hero-mill/

August 7, 2012 11:29 p.m.

Jokernaught says... #2

Proven wrong. Haha deck:flicker-me-this-hero-format is a four color deck I built myself to see if it could be done. Check it out.

There is also a thread for Hero Decks specifically, instead of this deck.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-forum/general/hero-format-decks/

Its clickable.

August 8, 2012 2:02 a.m.

AzrielBarakiel says... #3

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-hedron-hero/

prototype deck, check it out you guys, let me know how you think it will do in this format.

August 8, 2012 6:24 a.m.

raefgall says... #4

Just threw together Zendikar's Forest (Hero). I'm kind of digging this format. Looking forward to trying it out.

August 8, 2012 8:34 a.m.

KevinLS says... #5

If I have Dryad Arbor as my hero can I play a land and drop him turn 1? :-D

August 8, 2012 8:49 a.m.

Mirb says... #6

No, basic rules of magic still are active. You can only play one land per turn, and Dryad Arbor is a land, regardless of it's Hero status.

August 8, 2012 8:52 a.m.

Jokernaught says... #7

Please understand there is a forum thread for this.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-forum/general/hero-format-decks/

There you can post your deck where other Hero Format players already posted thiers.

August 8, 2012 11:27 a.m.

sarroth says... #8

If you want shorter Commander games, play with no more than 5 people (preferably 4), and try out 30-life life totals instead of 40. I'm not sure if a whole new Commander Lite format is needed to fix what a quick house rule could do. I'm assuming that since you didn't mention the Command Zone, that still exists in this format, in which case that's the only way the deck would play differently from a casual Krenko build, and the 2-of restriction is the only way the deck looks different on paper from casual builds. One thing I enjoyed about Commander was that it was obviously a unique format, in many ways; general/commander damage being one of them, which you've dropped (probably because you're playing 20 life instead of 40 or 30).

That said, if people like this format, enjoy. Personally, I think you should stick to the legendary creature restriction from Commander for the hero rather than leave it open to just any creature. There are plenty of legendary creatures, and while it's technically a restriction, it makes it easier for players new to the format to craft a deck, as they have a lot fewer choices than choosing from any creature in Magic. It's also a shame you can't keep in general/commander damage. I also still think just dropping Commander lifetotals to 30 is a way better way of having good, faster games than creating a new format; perhaps you should try that out at least, so you don't completely give up on Commander, as, after all, you're more likely to find games of Commander than a brand new format.

August 8, 2012 4:27 p.m.

would Memnarch be a valid commander in this format? Would he be counted as blue, or colorless, or not be allowed because his ability is not in his color?

August 8, 2012 6:01 p.m.

ianbrewman says... #10

yes he'd count as blue.

August 8, 2012 6:04 p.m.

thanks for the quick reply

August 8, 2012 6:06 p.m.

ianbrewman says... #12

to sarroth, i love commander, it's my favorite format. I created this to be a more open ended version of it. I wanted a good middle ground between commander and noble. more open ended but using the same rules. I wanted to keep commander damage, and i'm thinking of adding it back in, but making it so if you deal 40 commander damage the game is over. seeing as how people will use infinite lifegain and what not. let me know if you think that's a good idea.

August 8, 2012 6:09 p.m.

KevinLS says... #13

If this keeps the same rules as EDH, I don't see how Memnarch would be legal. That's a mana symbol on the card outside of the commander's color identity. Are we not worrying about symbols on the card? Like you could use Lingering Souls in a Champion of the Parish deck?

August 8, 2012 7:55 p.m.

Jokernaught says... #14

Official Commander Color Identity rules.

"903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that cards mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204)."

And

"903.5c A card can be included in a Commander deck only if every color in its color identity is also found in the color identity of the decks commander."

And by this rule, Lingering Souls can not be played in an otherwise mono-white deck. And Memnarch is a Blue general.

August 8, 2012 8:22 p.m.

KevinLS says... #15

so for the purposes of something like protection from blue, is Memnarch considered blue, or just a colorless legendary artifact creature wizard?

August 8, 2012 8:56 p.m.

Jokernaught says... #16

Its considered colorless. Protection checks the colors of the source, which is colorless. Not the color Identity which is blue.

August 8, 2012 9:08 p.m.

sarroth says... #17

@ieanbrewman: Your motives are understandable. I like the idea of keeping Commander Damage. You might even keep it at 21, as that's not much different than doing normal damage in a 20-life format but is still a choice against life-gain decks; plus keeping it at 21 requires less extra learning for Commander players moving over to the format.

Good luck with your format! Although, selfishly, I hope it doesn't catch on as much as Commander because the last thing I need is an excuse to build 3 more decks, lol.

August 9, 2012 4:24 p.m.

Vapor873 says... #18

Hero of Secrets

Once again Delver FTW :D

August 9, 2012 5:23 p.m.

benzzer853 says... #19

So with your current banned list i can play Ante cards

August 10, 2012 1:51 a.m.

Jokernaught says... #20

Is there anyway we can get a featured article for Hero? With all the official Rules, Errata, and Current Banned list? At least what has been banned so more?

August 10, 2012 2:01 a.m.

This is a great deck i live it i think i will make the deck for myself i love my pesky goblins lol +1 from me

August 10, 2012 2:15 a.m.

ianbrewman says... #22

I wish i had a little more help with this. however yes, give me time and I'll get an official page going. I just don't have enough time today.

August 10, 2012 2:25 p.m.

yeaGO says... #23

Ian -- elect someone to help you maintain it. I will add the format to TappedOut if you or whoever will commit to maintaining the list.

August 11, 2012 1:29 p.m.

ianbrewman says... #24

Gladly, I already have someone in mind.

August 11, 2012 2:04 p.m.

WANT

seriously, commander/EDH is one of my favorite formats because of the combos and the gameplay, especially in multiplayer. Hero format, especially if it became endorsed or something, would be amazing. Even more amazing for TappedOut, since it would all start here and generate a lot of traffic

August 12, 2012 2:02 a.m.