When does incubation Druid check for the counter?

Asked by BLOODGUILT 4 years ago

Incubation Druid + Stony Strength Turn 3 board state is three forest and Druid on board.

Can I tap a land for g floating, then tap Druid and hold priority to cast Stoney strength on Druid? What outcome would this yield? The stack, if I understand this, would be druid's tap ability with stony strength to resolve first. Stony strength puts a counter on Druid and untaps it. The Druid ability then resolves. Does it see the counter and give you ggg or does the ability check when it goes on the stack?

Came up at an fnm and no one had internet

xenosapien says... Accepted answer #1

TL;DR: Mana abilities do not use the stack.

If you tap him, his activated ability resolves immediately since it is a mana ablity (they do not go on the stack) after you pay the "cost" (tapping him) and you get all mana that he can produce at this moment. So the check for his power is done at this moment.

if you plan on using the green mana to cast the stony strength, that would produce one green, since stony strenght has not resolved yet.

when it does resolve, it puts a counter on the druid and untaps him, and if you were to tap him for mana AGAIN, that second time he produces more mana since he now has the counter on him.

September 20, 2019 6:25 a.m.

Kogarashi says... #2

Helpful note: to determine if something is a mana ability, it must meet the following criteria.

  • Doesn't require a target

  • Could add mana to a player's mana pool when it resolves

  • If activated, it must not be a loyalty ability

  • If triggered, it must trigger from the resolution of an activated mana ability or from mana being added to a player's mana pool

There are some abilities that don't meet all of the above criteria (see Deathrite Shaman for an example), and those use the stack, but in the case of Incubation Druid it meets all the criteria and thus doesn't use the stack.

September 20, 2019 2:41 p.m.

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