Jhoira of the Ghitu with time counter removal and sorceries

Asked by pogo4545 5 years ago

Lets say I used Jhoira of the Ghitu to suspend Apocalypse. If I were to cast Timecrafting on someone else's turn to remove the remaining counters, would Apocalypse be casted after Timecrafting resolves? If not when would it be able to be casted? If I did it with a creature would it be the same thing?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

702.61a Suspend is a keyword that represents three abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the card with suspend is in a player’s hand. The second and third are triggered abilities that function in the exile zone. “Suspend N—[cost]” means “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it. This action doesn’t use the stack,” and “At the beginning of your upkeep, if this card is suspended, remove a time counter from it,” and “When the last time counter is removed from this card, if it’s exiled, play it without paying its mana cost if able. If you can’t, it remains exiled. If you cast a creature spell this way, it gains haste until you lose control of the spell or the permanent it becomes.”

Casting the card when the last counter is removed is a separate ability from the one that removes the counters. This means that whenever the time counter is removed and for whatever reason the trigger to cast the card from exile will go on the stack. It will be cast when this trigger resolves.

The fact that it is a sorcery has no bearing on if you can cast it or not. You can not normally cast any spell at all when a spell or ability is resolving, so timing considerations are obviously moot.

August 28, 2018 9:54 p.m.