Activated abilitys + removal

Asked by CrazyChessPlayer 5 years ago

How does this work, say I have a Abyssal Hunter I tap it to hit an opponents creature then he removes my Abyssal Hunter do I still get to use the abitlity or does it just not happen? Thanks

Madcookie says... Accepted answer #1

The order is this. You activate Abyssal Hunter and his ability goes on the stack. The opponent responds with Rend Flesh killing your hunter, but his ability is still on the stack. If no other abilities are played Abyssal Hunter resolves, tapping the targeted creature and doing 1 damage to it. Although it is not specified on gatherer, I'm basing my answer on the fact that his ability works very much like Champion of Wits'

Use Champion of Wits’s power as the first ability resolves to determine if you want to use the ability and how many cards you draw if you do. If you use the ability, you discard two cards regardless of how many cards you draw. If Champion of Wits leaves the battlefield before that ability resolves, use its last known power. (2017-07-14)

In that sense if Abyssal Hunter's power was different from 1, say he died from Last Gasp he wouldn't do damage at all, but would still tap the creature.

September 23, 2018 5:57 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #2

Pretty much exactly what Madcookie said. But since they used a gatherer ruling from a different card some people may try to dispute it. Here is the CR stating that all abilities work as explained.

112.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, “Prodigal Pyromancer deals 1 damage to target creature or player”) rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source because the effect needs to be divided checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it’s expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.

September 23, 2018 6:34 p.m.

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