Looks like you can add a Death and Taxes section! I've worked one full month only on it, and I'll be playing this archetype at a nice european event :D

elpokitolama D and T in Modern? Would that be close enough to hatebears, or a different category?

NoviceMagician Could you give me an example of a list? I'm interested, because I know basically balls about Voltron XD

You're somehow right, since that's pretty close to HB (the only differences are that it's monocolored HB and that it uses (and abuses) etb effects). :>

Like I said, I'm definitely not the best on it, but I am knowledgeable on it enough to provide full synopsizes on Voltron decks, which could probably be considered above average suggestions for its archetype. I actually made a new one the other day, but it is budget so it isn't the best, and I'll send you the link over chat.

The only modern viable voltron game in modern is a Bogles deck, which can come in 3 different flavors. There is no one on Bogles at the moment, so if you want to learn up on that already established archetype NoviceMagician, that'd probably be your best bet. Any other non-bogles strategy (like heroic) is basically turned off by the sheer amount of removal in the format.

I know Bogles as well, it is Voltron afterall. And at the same time, I think being listed for Voltron pretty much covers all the forms of Voltron, including Bogles. I could be listed for both or one or the other, whatever makes more sense to Famy.

Also, I believe it has yet to be established whether these are just simple modern specialties, or competitive specialties. So even if Bogles was out of the picture, Voltron is still a viable archetype no matter how much it is, or how much it isn't, competitve.

It is up to Famy, and thank you for the advice ThatJunkMage. :)

Alright, so I think I'll put up elpokitolama for D&T because it does have some differences with the Bears, most notably in blinking. As Junk pointed though, the only really viable Voltron strategy in Modern is Boggles. If you're fine with it NoviceMagician, I'll put you up as well in that archetype.

Yeh, that's fine. The main reason was to give users someone to consult about it.

As SirFowler wouldn't say, hot beans.

Summoning thebaby (elpokitolama) because he's a d&t "master" now.

Well, looks like I'm putting up my Boggles deck now. XD

Might as well throw up my other Voltron while I'm at it.

While we're changing things, you may wish to take me off of twin as I no longer play the deck or wish to keep up with it. I'm still good for loam and melira though

ThatJunkMage Done. Thanks for the heads-up :)

Also, it appears to me as though this thread / tool is giving off the impression that this is a list of "decks I play / have played" to some users, and I don't think that that is what it is meant to be. Could there be some sort of detailed explanation of what this list is for? Maybe require some sort of proof that the person is capable of giving help / advice on a particular deck?

I realize that this may come off as elitist, but if a person wants to be on this list because they play the deck, that shouldn't warrant them being labeled as "having an in depth knowledge of the deck; how to play it and how to tune a particular list".

I will say though that this is not my project, and this is merely a suggestion as it is what I would do if this were my project.

I was under the impression this was a list comprised of users who are willing to give above exceptional advice to their corresponding category. As to what is considered above exceptional: Giving advice based on every ounce of knowledge you have on the archetype, and always ready to give more.

Everyone gives better advice if it is an archetype they like. Proof is unnessecary.

NoviceMagician

While proof "is unnecessary", I would much prefer to ask the B/G Rock player with a primer about it on his profile a question about the archetype than the guy that doesn't even have anything resembling a G/B deck on his profile. I'm just saying that proving your merit will help attract attention to you as opposed to others in your category, and if someone else can and will consistently provide better information than you will, why bother having you on the list? Again, not trying to sound elitist, but when someone is looking to use this as a tool to get better, I wouldn't want to be wasting my time with people that only like to pretend that they know what they're talking about. If there's only one person so far that's stepped up to be in a given position though (Say, the Vampires guy), that's totally fine that he's the only one in the community that feels like he has something to offer. But once there gets to be like 5-6 people in one archetype, you have to question who's really here to help other people as opposed to just getting their name on a list.

I would rather ask the one who pours every ounce of knowledge they have on the archetype and will constantly try their best. I wouldn't mind if they had their own decks in that archetype or not. As long as the users up there in that list are willing to do everything they can to help the deck, experience is irrelevant, as they have truly done their best, and doing your best is always above exceptional.

And you don't sound like an elitist, voicing one's concerns and thoughts never sounds elitist. I wholeheartedly respect everything you've said.

As for the people who just want to be on the list, they are digging their own grave. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

ThatJunkMage in a sense, you're right that we do need some conditions before accepting people. That's something I'm still thinking about, as well as what actual archetypes should be in the list. If you have suggestions, I'm plenty open to them. However, as Magician pointed out, as long as the people on the list can help (and I have faith in them that they can), there's no need for anything big.

I think that we do need to approach with care because people may be tempted to blindly follow the advice of a so called 'expert' even if it isn't good advice. In these situations there are few, if any, consequences to giving poor advice. Rather than relying on less knowledgeable users to vet the advice that they're being given, the onus should be on us, the experts to vet the advice we're giving out because we're in a better situation to do so.

Hey, hence why I started the chat with you ChiefBell :) Whatever, it can be discussed here anyways.

So for the deck archetypes, I was thinking of putting the decks in Chief's primer, no more, no less, to avoid discussions about whether X rogue deck is competitive or not. That would mean that the primer would have to be updated often, but I think that that's already the case, and it's the most popular Modern ressource on the site.

As for the "conditions"... I really don't know. It can't really be something about votes because featuring is a thing. Being in the top X users won't help either because many users get popular for homebrews and Johnny decks. I'm not going to ask for tournament proof or whatever, partially because there are a lot of online users. Once again, if someone has an idea about this, please shout it out.

Just some sort of example on that user's profile that they have actual experience with the deck? Like a primer, tournament reports, or if it's just common knowledge that they play the deck like in APPLE01DOJ's case with gb decks. Maybe have some sort of small survey to be filled out before accepting someone that questions them on their deck. If they have no idea how to side board, for example, maybe don't accept that person. It definitely should not be based on TO popularity for reasons mentioned, but just if that person can show an understanding of the deck before being accepted.

So would this list be comprised of competitive players only? Because I can tell you the ins and outs of burn, but since there are literally zero Modern tourneys around here, I never have the chance to sideboard and so I know zip about that.

I love Golgari & it's all I play but I rather not be on that list. I'm not a pro by any means & current "Rock" lists have evolved to Jund or Junk or reverted back to Death Cloud.

I actually feel like writing a full break-down on Voltron (and Bogles) now, because I have no life. :p

I have other obligations around this site (and other sites, and I'm about to move) right now though, so it'll take awhile.

No elf specialists yet? That appears to be a thing now.

NoviceMagician That would be more for Chief's primer, you can ask him about that.

APPLE01DOJ You're off. Thanks for letting me know!

ComradeJim270 Nope.