Zada with card effects like Swell of Growth or Titan's Strength
Asked by xseiber 9 years ago
Zada, Hedron Grinder with effects like Swell of Growth or Titan's Strength. The reason I ask is that, for example, based on my own understanding of the card, Zada, Hedron Grinder, let us say that I have Zada, Hedron Grinder with 4 other creatures on my board, I cast Swell of Growth, which means that, if it goes through, I copy Swell of Growth on my other 4 creatures and therefore be able to play up to 5 additional lands, of course they all trigger separately but on the same stack. The same is with Titan's Strength, where I get to scry 1 5 separate times. Adding to this and where I got the idea from is from the Battle for Zendikar booklet that accompanies the Fat Pack. It had a part where it talks about Zada, Hedron Grinder and how you can combo her with Swell of Growth and potentially unload all the lands in your hand.
Am I correct in my line of thinking?
And if so, does this mean that card effects similar to both Swell of Growth and Titan's Strength will apply their second effect?
Gidgetimer says... #2
I have a bit of a problem with this phrase: "of course they all trigger separately but on the same stack." While it is clear that you mean that you understand each resolves separately, there is only ever one stack. I'm not sure what you were meaning by that last part; but the stack is a game zone like the battlefield, graveyards, or libraries. The stack is where spells and abilities go after being cast/activated/triggered and before they resolve.
October 16, 2015 4:14 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #3
Spell effects also don't trigger. The extra land plays are not part of a triggered ability. They're just an effect of a resolving spell, and the spells themselves aren't triggered.
Zada, Hedron Grinder has a triggered ability. The ability creates copies of spells, and those copies are not cast. Spells are never triggered.
October 16, 2015 4:43 p.m.
Ah okay, I would still scry 1 five times or be able to play 5 additional lands still, correct?
October 16, 2015 6:24 p.m.
Like I said, you get the full effects of the spells, so you will scry 1 five times, or get to play an additional land 5 times.
October 16, 2015 11:04 p.m.
Lastofthesane says... #6
I have been searching for an answer with no luck thus far, so with a card like incremental growth, would it essentially trigger and infinite number of casts so long as at least one of the sets of counters lands on zada?
June 8, 2016 11:34 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #7
This question was answered over a year ago. In the future, please ask a new question rather than replying to an old one.
Link all cards in your question.
Incremental Growth
No. Zada, Hedron Grinder's ability explicitly says that the spell must target only Zada. If you target two or three creatures, you get no copies, even if Zada is one of those targets.
Devonin says... Accepted answer #1
Yes. You are copying the spell, you get all of the things the spell does.
October 16, 2015 1:26 p.m.