Scapeshift + Khalni Heart Exp. + Valakut = ?
Asked by SteelNinja 11 years ago
Let's say I have a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle , a Khalni Heart Expedition and 4 Forests in play. I play a Scapeshift , sack my Forests in exchange for 4 Mountains. Can I then use the Expedition's activated ability to have all 6 mountains trigger the Valakut, or does only the 6th trigger it? I'm pretty sure that it's all 6 since the activated ability happens at instant speed, so all of the mountains should enter simultaneously, but I been told otherwise by a few people, so I just want to make sure here.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2
When multiple permanents enter or leave the battlefield, they all see each other. However, only four Mountains are entering the battlefield when Scapeshift resolves. Because you don't control enough Mountains, none of those four will trigger Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle 's ability.
When you resolve Khalni Heart Expedition 's activated ability, Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle 's triggered ability will trigger for each of them because they enter simultaneously.
You can't activate abilities or cast spells while something else is resolving, so you need to wait until after Scapeshift fully resolves before you can put Khalni Heart Expedition 's triggered abilities on the stack, resolve them, and then activate and resolve its activated ability.
November 28, 2013 8:07 p.m.
SteelNinja says... #3
So both of the Mountains from the Khalni Heart Expedition will trigger Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle , but not the 4 from Scapeshift ?
November 28, 2013 11:16 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #4
Correct. The Mountains from Scapeshift enter the battlefield before the Mountains from Khalni Heart Expedition . Actually, that's fairly obvious in this situation because you need the landfall triggers to get quest counters on Khalni Heart Expedition .
If Khalni Heart Expedition has enough counters on it for you to activate the ability before Scapeshift resolves, then you can fetch two Mountains, and the four Mountains from Scapeshift will give you four triggers. You won't be able to get six triggers out of this situation, though.
SteelNinja says... #1
Sorry about all the typos and missing words. I wrote this on my phone.
November 28, 2013 7:54 p.m.