Polukranos, World Eater how it works?
Asked by labanog 11 years ago
Hi to monstrosity it, it has 2 XX does it mean toget 1 counter I gotta pay 2 colorless toget only 1 counter? Or does 2 colorless gives me 2 counter?
When it trigger I can do x damage to x creature, wat if I add 5 counter to it becomes 10/10, then I target to creature of my opponent creature which is a 5/3 & 5/2 creature, is spilt to both,but since it fight w my hyrada does it kill my hydra also? Or not
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2
You announce the value of X before you pay costs. All X values across the card are then set to the announce number. Because the monstrosity cost of Polukranos, World Eater is XXG, you must pay X+X+G.
The X value of Polukranos, World Eater 's monstrosity ability determines both the cost and the number of +1/+1 counters Polukranos, World Eater gets. If you activate the monstrosity ability for X=5, then the triggered ability triggers for X=5. Polukranos, World Eater will deal 5 damage divided as you choose to any number of target creatures. If you target a 5/3 and a 5/2, then Polukranos, World Eater will deal the chosen amount of damage to each and be dealt 10 damage in return. Polukranos, World Eater will die as a result.
September 21, 2013 3:07 a.m.
Ok sorry, just asking how to trigger monstrosity? And how it works basically kinda unclear how it works
September 21, 2013 3:08 a.m.
Hi epoch in your example of declaring x=5, so I pay 10 colorless plus G? Or just 5 colorless plus G? Thx
September 21, 2013 3:10 a.m.
TrollNtrample says... #5
You can trigger it anytime you could trigger a normal mana ability on a creature. Even as an interrupt I believe.
Also, Polukranos, World Eater
has a slightly different monstrous ability. Epochalyptik will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can tap two different amounts for his attack, and then one for his toughness.
For instance, Polu is already out on the field, and now it's your turn and you have 5 lands and you wish to make him monstrous. Now my understanding is that you would have to tap one group of mana for his attack, and then another group for his toughness.
So with five mana, let's say you tap 3 for his attack, and then the other 2 for his toughness. So now he would be an 8/7 doing an instant 3 damage to any amount of creatures you choose.
This is my understanding, World Eater is really the first card I've seen with this specific type of monstrosity effect.
September 21, 2013 3:17 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
As I said, X has the same value across the card, and the monstrosity cost is [XXG], which equates to [X+X+G]. For monstrosity 5, you need to pay 10G.
September 21, 2013 3:17 a.m.
TrollNtrample says... #7
I'd assume you'd pay ten mana in total if you chose to add 5/5 to him.
September 21, 2013 3:19 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
@TrollNtrample: That is incorrect.
First, monstrosity is an activated ability of Polukranos, World Eater , not a triggered ability.
Second, all instances of X are the same across a given card. You can't choose different values for X on Polukranos, World Eater 's monstrosity ability.
September 21, 2013 3:20 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
In response to post #7:
That is correct, but only because each X value is the same. Choosing X=5 means you pay 10G and put five +1/+1 counters on Polukranos, World Eater .
September 21, 2013 3:20 a.m.
TrollNtrample says... #10
So Epochalyptik, do they have to be the same? I can't add 3 to attack, and then 2 to defense? I know it technically says "counters" for Polu, but I'd like to double check. Ya know, since we're having this talk already ;)
September 21, 2013 3:21 a.m.
TrollNtrample says... #11
Never mind, you answered my question already. Thanks again Epoch :)
September 21, 2013 3:21 a.m.
So XXG, is basically pay double the cost of what you want X to be? For example, if you had 8 mana open, you could monstrosity him for a max of 3? Because 1 mana for the green and then 6 mana for the double cost of 3?? I AM STILL CONFUSED. Please spell it out as if you are talking to a toddler!
October 2, 2013 1:42 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #13
@potpanman: You're correct.
XXG means you announce the value of X, then pay X+X+G. Effectively, you're paying G plus twice the X you named because you have to pay for each X in the activation cost.
October 2, 2013 1:59 p.m.
Next question regarding his X damage portion. If I pay 6G (3 counters and 3 damage), that means I can do 2 damage to one creature and 1 damage to another? Or does it deal in amounts of 3 damage to any amount of creatures I choose?
October 23, 2013 1:24 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #15
@thewrush: You should ask a new question instead of posting in an old one if the original is a week old or older.
You do exactly as the ability says. You divide the damage among any number of target creatures, which means you have to split that damage up into smaller amounts. In your scenario, you can deal 3 damage divided amongst one, two, or three target creatures.
October 23, 2013 1:30 p.m.
tonybaker26 says... #16
I'm pretty sure variable X is doubled on a since if you pay one you get 2 (+1 +1 ) because X is a set variable you pay one and it doubles over to the second X for instance a artifact has casting cost XXX and for simply 1 mana you fill in X for 1 times the number of variablesWhich would make this card way more efficent than yalls way
November 6, 2014 11:14 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #17
@tonybaker26: Except that's completely incorrect, as was explained over a year ago in the correct answer, and as explained in the Gatherer rulings for your example card, Astral Cornucopia.
2/1/2014: If you choose 1 for the value of X, Astral Cornucopia will cost 3 to cast and enter the battlefield with one charge counter. If you choose 2 for the value of X, it will cost 6 to cast and enter the battlefield with two charge counters, and so on.
November 6, 2014 11:30 p.m.
tonybaker26 says... #18
well thanks for clearing that up are you familiar with broodmaster hydra??
November 7, 2014 10:48 a.m.
almeidajfna says... #20
I can do damage on creatures with flying by using Polukranos ability?
December 29, 2014 7:43 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #21
@almeidajfna: Check the post dates before you comment. This thread is over a year old, and it's already been necroed once. Ask a new question instead of reviving an old one.
Yes. Nothing in the ability suggests that you can't target creatures with flying.
December 29, 2014 12:48 p.m.
I feel like the people answering how this works did a poor job.
Earlier in the comments I seen... you would pay 10 mana TOTAL for 5 counters added to Polu. Wrong. Not to mention Epoc said 10G.
It would cost 11 mana total. 1G... and then 10 of anything else.
I had someone tell me I had to pay the "G" everytime I paid for one set of XX.
So if I wanted to add 3 counters to Polu, he thinks I would have to pay 9 mana... 3 for G and 6 for XX. I wanted to slap him.
June 6, 2015 3:37 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #23
... Epochalyptik is this a record for the number of times a single thread has been necrobumped?
June 6, 2015 3:43 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #24
Do you not realize that 10G means 10 colorless and one green?
As in, 
?
Also my posts all said X+X+G or XXG, which are functionally identical?
June 6, 2015 3:58 p.m.
My apologies sir. I had not realized that.
Also... canterlotguardian, you silly sally, I'm looking to buy this card and I wanted to make sure I had the rules down pat!
TrollNtrample says... #1
Let's retype this a little more clearly, and then we can better assist in answering your question.
I really can't make out exactly what you're asking here.
September 21, 2013 3:06 a.m.