Lotleth Troll/Sac/Destroy/Regen. Question

Asked by Arorsthrar 11 years ago

Scenario #1:I swing with Lotleth Troll alone and they use Celestial Flare on me. In response, I use Dark Betrayal on my own Lotleth Troll and regenerate. Since he is no longer attacking, I would have no creature to sac, correct?

Scenario #2: They Devour Flesh on me, and my only creature is Lotleth Troll . If I kill my own Lotleth Troll with a Dark Betrayal , can I wait until the Devour Flesh resolves to regenerate?

Raitaki says... Accepted answer #1

Scenario #1: Correct. Regenerate removes a creature from combat, so you'd have no legal creatures you can sac for Celestial Flare by the time it resolves.
Scenario #2: In this case Lotleth Troll remains a legal creature you can sacrifice, and unless you can get another creature on the field at instant speed there is no way to avoid losing Lotleth Troll . How regenerates work is the NEXT time the creature receives lethal damage or an effect saying "destroy" resolves against it, it instead isn't destroyed and all damage is removed from it. You have to activate regenerate ahead of time before the creature is destroyed, and the creature never leaves your control either, so you can't use regenerate to dodge sacrifice, which is essentially moving a creature you control to the graveyard.

January 12, 2014 11:30 a.m.

Devonin says... #2

1: 508.1j Each chosen creature still controlled by the active player becomes an attacking creature. It remains an attacking creature until it's removed from combat or the combat phase ends, whichever comes first.

Since you are actually creating a scenario where the regeneration shield of the Lotleth Troll is being used to replace a destruction event, yeah that'll save it. Removing it from combat will make it stop being an attacking creature, and when Celestial Flare resolves, you will no longer have an attacking troll.

2: If the hope was that you'd still get to gain the life, if Devour Flesh is allowed to resolve at all, you have to sacrifice the creature as part of that resolution, and won't have time for your Betrayal/Regenerate shenanigan because you'll have already sacrificed the troll.

So in this case, you just save the card and wave goodbye to the troll because Devour Flesh is going to resolve and if he's your only creature, it doesn't matter how many times you destroy and regenerate him, he's still on the field and will be sacrificed.

January 12, 2014 11:32 a.m.

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