Interaction between Orvar, the All-Form and Dreams of the Dead
Asked by CamraMaan 2 years ago
First, to cover logistics, my Orvar, the All-Form deck has every 1cc instant that changes the color text of a card, which brings me to Dreams of the Dead... say I change it to specify the color blue, and bring back a blue creature from my grave, which now has a cumulative upkeep of 2cc. Then I target this creature with an instant while Orvar is in play, making a copy of it. Does that copy have cumulative upkeep as well...? My assumption is that it will, but my hope is that it won't.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
The cumulative upkeep added from Dreams of the Dead is not a copiable value. The copy will not have the cumulative upkeep.
707.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object’s characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by its face-down status, and by “as . . . enters the battlefield” and “as . . . is turned face up” abilities that set power and toughness (and may also set additional characteristics). Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, counters, and stickers are not copied.
August 20, 2023 7:05 p.m.