If I animate a land and put a +1/+1 counter on it with Experiment Kraj, then it un-animates, what happens?

Asked by chrizzilla 11 years ago

I know that basic lands have an implied "tap: add one mana of the color this land produces to your mana pool" ability, so I was wondering what happens in a situation like this:

1. I animate my Island, using a card like Hydroform .
2. I put a +1/+1 counter on it using Experiment Kraj.
3. It stops being a land at end of turn

Kraj's ability says he has all activated abilities of all CREATURES with +1/+1 counters on them, and the land would no longer be a creature, but would Kraj still have it's ability?

Or would the +1/+1 counter go away? Can noncreature things have +1/+1 counters on them?

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

It's fine for non-creature permanents to have +1/+1 counters. That's how Raging Ravine , Llanowar Reborn , and Afiya Grove are able to work at all.

You're right to notice that Experiment Kraj specifically says "creatures". If the object with a +1/+1 counter isn't a creature, Kraj doesn't get the abilities.

August 29, 2013 8:14 p.m.

chrizzilla says... #2

How do these counters work on noncreature things though? They couldn't attack right, even though they have a P/T?

August 29, 2013 8:30 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

Noncreature objects don't have P/T. They can have +1/+1 counters, but that is irrelevant until they become creatures. The counters don't spontaneously give noncreature permanents P/T values.

August 29, 2013 11:06 p.m.

ajclarke says... #4

As a side question to this, because it's fitting:

If you animate a land, and the creature then dies, does the land go to the graveyard, or does it become a land again?

August 30, 2013 5:58 a.m.

darkmatter32x says... #5

It goes to the graveyard just like any other creature that dies, since you turn the land into creature.

August 30, 2013 6:12 a.m.

ajclarke says... #6

Much appreciated thank you :) I had thought as much.

August 30, 2013 6:23 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #7

Whenever a permanent has multiple types, it follows the rules for all of those types. When a creature is destroyed, it dies (is put into the graveyard from play), so that's what happens to the animated land.

August 30, 2013 8:37 a.m.