How does Momir Vig interact with creatures that tutor?
Asked by capriom85 11 years ago
The more specific interactions I am wondering about are Momir Vig, Simic Visionary being on table when I cast Coiling Oracle , Elvish Visionary , and Shardless Agent .
For instance, when I cant Shardless Agent with Momir out, do I cascade then tutor and draw? Or do I tutor and draw, then cascade?Coiling Oracle , do I reveal a card then tutor/draw, or tutor/draw then reveal a card?Elvish Visionary may be the most important one in question here...do I tutor then draw what I tutor, or do I draw a card then put a creature on top?
Thanks! Does this mean that even if these spells are countered the Momir tutor ability happens?
January 20, 2014 11:15 a.m.
daniferrito says... #3
Momir Vig cares when you CAST a spell. both the Oracle and the Visionary trigger when they ENTER the battlefield.
That means that when you cast the Oracle or the Visionary, Momir Vig will trigger (once for each of its ability in the case of the Oracle). You will tutor and draw the card before the creature even enters the battlefield. You could even draw the card, then tutor the creature if you choose so.
With Shardless agent, all trigger at the same time, so you can choose to do so in whatever order you choose to.
January 20, 2014 11:21 a.m.
daniferrito says... #4
Yes. However, if Visionary of Oracle are countered, they will never enter, so you wont get to draw a card.
erabel says... Accepted answer #1
For Shardless Agent , since Cascade and both of Momir Vig's abilities trigger on cast, you can stack them how you choose. When a player would have more than one trigger go on the stack at the same time, that player can stack them as they choose. You could tutor, cascade, then reveal; you can cascade, tutor, reveal; however you like.
For Coiling Oracle , since his ability triggers when he enters the battlefield, first you'd tutor and reveal in whatever order you choose (because he's green and blue), then if the Oracle resolves, its ETB trigger happens, and you reveal the top card again.
For Elvish Visionary , on cast, since it's a green creature, you can tutor for a creature and put it on top of your library, then if it resolves, its ETB trigger happens and you draw a card.
January 20, 2014 11:13 a.m.