Hive Mind and Glorious End
Asked by WUBRG97 6 years ago
Hi
I am building a Commander Deck, that focus on playing weird cards, that mix the whole boards cards with eachother and different drawbacks in damage and land return, basically Chaos.
I stumbled upon a small combo, but i am not sure if it works, deck is only meant for multiplayer, so the question is if tis combo works with 4 players.
So you have a Hive Mind on the board, and in your turn you cast Glorious End. Will this make your opponents lose when they reach their next end step, or will it only kill the next player, or even one, not sure with the whole end the turn effect on Glorious End. And follow up, is there other combos like this that could work, or other cards for a chaos commander deck?
Thank you in advance
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Odysseus_97
Thanks
So if we are 4 players, and im player 1, and i play Glorious End during player 2 turn, will that mean player 3 loses?
June 21, 2017 1:02 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #3
No, it means Player 4 loses. If you cast the spell during Player 2's turn then Hive Mind will create copies for the players in this order: P2, P3, P4. Since Player 4's copy is on top of the stack it will resolve first.
June 21, 2017 1:09 p.m.
I'm working on a deck utilizing a similar Hive Mind combo. Try out Final Fortune, Last Chance, or Warrior's Oath instead. Depending on how it works with the stack, you may need some method of skipping your extra turn.
June 26, 2017 3:53 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
For Final Fortune/Last Chance/Warrior's Oath, you do need to figure out some way of skipping the extra turn or otherwise not losing. An extra turn gets created in front of any other extra turns that have already been created but haven't started yet. This means the most recently created extra turn will always be taken first. No matter whose turn it is, the original spell that triggered Hive Mind will always resolve last (i.e. after all the copies). This is the extra turn that will be taken first.
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1
It will only affect one player (and not you), but exactly which player depends on whose turn it is when you cast Glorious End.
Hive Mind puts the copies onto the stack in turn order. If it's an opponent's turn when you trigger the ability then it will start with that player. If it's your turn when you trigger the ability then it will start with the opponent who would start their turn after you. Whichever copy is put onto the stack last will resolve first. As that copy of Glorious End resolves, the "end the turn" part of its effect exiles all the other copies as well as the original spell. The player who controlled the copy that actually resolved is the one who will lose the game at the beginning of their next end step. No one else will be subject to that effect since their copies of Glorious End never resolved.
June 21, 2017 12:58 p.m.