Hexproof question

Asked by iAMmrKYLE 10 years ago

I didn't know where to post this so I went with standard cause that's what me and my friend were playing when this came up.

So he plays a hex proof guy and I play another creature saying all players have to sacrifice a creature he swears it doesn't affect his guy when it's the only one he has out even though it affects the player and I found on multiple forums people who agreed with me but he won't believe it till I find an official ruling on it which I can't seem to find. Can anyone tell me if either I'm just wrong or help me find the official ruling for that?

Ohthenoises says... Accepted answer #1

702.11b[/url]: Hexproof on a permanent means This permanent cant be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.

Sacrifice effects typically don't say "target" and therefore DON'T target.

It would help to link cards in question. For example Crackling Doom as a sac outlet and Sylvan Caryatid as a hexproof creature.

Furthermore, this is a rules question. It should be posted in the Q&A on the toolbar at the top of the page. I'm sure Epochalyptik is going to ninja me and move this but I'll tag him anyways.

January 26, 2015 1:01 p.m.

w34ky says... #2

A permanent with hexproof can still be the target of spells or abilities controlled by that permanent's controller or that player's teammates. The same is true for a player with hexproof.Aura spells target a permanent or player. You can't cast an Aura spell targeting an opponent's permanent with hexproof.Auras on the battlefield don't target anything. Granting hexproof to a permanent or player doesn't cause opponents' Auras to become unattached.
January 26, 2015 1:01 p.m.

kintighd says... #3

First, this question should be asked in teh mtg Q&A, linked at the top. Second, you are are right, here is some somewhat official rulings on hexproof, and Barter in Blood a card that forces people to sacrifice two creatures.

702.11. Hexproof #

702.11a Hexproof is a static ability. #

702.11b Hexproof on a permanent means This permanent cant be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control. #

702.11c Hexproof on a player means You cant be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control. #

702.11d Multiple instances of hexproof on the same permanent or player are redundant.

These are the gatherer rulings for Barter in Blood.

5/1/2012: If a player controls only one creature, that creature is sacrificed.

5/1/2012: Barter in Blood doesn't target any creatures and may be cast even if a player controls fewer than two creatures.

January 26, 2015 1:02 p.m.

PepsiAddicted says... #4

i bet he did XD slap him with a printed 702.11

January 26, 2015 1:07 p.m.

iAMmrKYLE says... #5

kintighd well thank you I'll try and show him this. Cause other than that I didn't have a bunch to deal with his hexproof guy unless I have a bigger guy out.

January 26, 2015 1:08 p.m.

iAMmrKYLE says... #6

Ohthenoises thank you also it just may be difficult to get him to believe this cause he's not accepting this coming from a forum. If it comes to it I'll just take him to a judge at a fnm to slap him up for me

January 26, 2015 1:15 p.m.

PepsiAddicted says... #7

if he doesnt accept it cuz its coming from here and you cant get hold of an RL judge send him there:

http://chat.magicjudges.org/mtgrules/

http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgjudge/

http://magicjudge.tumblr.com/

January 26, 2015 1:22 p.m.

Hjaltrohir says... #8

Really, if he refuses to admit he's wrong about a game in the past then it isn't a huge deal. However, it is important to get him straight before something like this happens again.Surely he realises that with everyone on this forum arguing against him he must be wrong?

January 26, 2015 1:41 p.m.

iAMmrKYLE says... #9

I think all you guys were able to help so I believe He agrees now. It wasn't like I was gonna get pissed if I was wrong I justbwanted to know who was right so I knew how the rules worked for future reference

January 26, 2015 1:47 p.m.

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