Epic Experiment and the Stack
Asked by snotskie 12 years ago
Is Epic Experiment on the stack while the cards it casts are resolving? Or does it fall into the graveyard before they start to resolve?
Epic Experiment must resolve before you can put the spells you get from it on the stack. (as such they all count as being casted individually, great for triggering Guttersnipe -- Cheers!
October 22, 2012 12:42 p.m.
Wow, I completely read the card wrong... Disregard my previous statement.
October 22, 2012 12:43 p.m.
@Sam_I_am: does that mean that you can cast a spell with Epic Experiment that targets the same Epic Experiment that cast it?
For example, could I cast Epic Experiment for 3 and cast a Cancel targeting Epic Experiment ? I know that the Cancel would become countered when its target fell into the graveyard, I'm just wondering if I could cast it this way.
October 22, 2012 2:41 p.m.
Okay Im back... and I was right the first time. (The spells cast by EE do trigger Guttersnipe , anyway... The key is actually in punctuation. Epic Experiment reads "exile the top x cards of your library. (Note the Period) This means that as the spell resolves you exile the cards. Then you may cast the cards you exiled using EE, EE is no longer on the stack. Then the wording gets tricky, because of the word "THEN". This would mean that you must put all cards not cast in your graveyard before you end the step/phase. Without "THEN" you would be able to keep those cards in exile and canst them at your connivence.
To answer your question... you Can Not Cancel the Epic Experiment used to exile said Cancel , because Epic Experiment is not on the stack when you would be able to use Cancel ...
Also, if a player wanted to counter Epic Experiment they must do so before the caster of EE exiles the cards. Once you start exiling that would mean EE has already resolved...
October 22, 2012 3:23 p.m.
So...
Is this the order of how things work with EE?
1) EE goes onto the stack.
2) EE resolves.
3) Cards are exiled.
4) EE moves to the graveyard.
5) Choices are made about what to cast and what not to cast.
6) Cast cards go onto the stack, others go into the graveyard.
7) AP gets priority.
8) Stack begins to resolve as normal.
October 22, 2012 3:30 p.m.
GoblinsInc says... Accepted answer #9
1) EE goes onto the stack.
2) EE begins to resolve.
3) Cards are exiled.
4) Choices are made about what to cast and what not to cast.
5) Cast cards go onto the stack, others go into the graveyard.
6] EE finishes resolving, and goes to the graveyard.
7] Active player gets priority.
8] If both players pass without adding to the stack, the next object will resolve.
Sam_I_am says... #1
It remains on the stack while it itself is resolving, (and putting the spells it casts on the stack), but before those spells can resolve, Epic Experiment goes to the graveyard.
October 22, 2012 12:41 p.m.