does first-strike, deathtouch, etc. matter for Prey Upon?

Asked by anonymousperson184 11 years ago

I was playing a casual duel and I played Prey Upon with my Deadly Recluse and a Ulamog's Crusher . Does deathtouch work?

aavb132 says... #1

Certain abilities still function with the fight mechanic, and those are the ones that don't directly mess with blocking or attacking. So, stuff like Lifelink, Deathtouch, Wither, etc. work with fights, but Trample, Double Strike, Banding, and so on do not.

May 30, 2013 9:27 p.m.

TridenT says... #2

Deathtouch definitely works! Any damage dealt by the creature, through fighting, combat damage, or an ability like "T: ~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player" all count for the damage being dealt that can use the deathtouch effect.

Now, fighting and first strike have nothing to do with one another. A fight effect causes two creatures to deal damage equal to their power to one another. First strike only matters in combat.

May 30, 2013 9:28 p.m.

Absinthman says... Accepted answer #3

No for first strike. First strike only creates a separate combat damage step for the first striking creatures during combat phase when they attack or block. It's a very common misconception to consider combat and fighting the same thing, but its not so. Fighing just means that the creatures deal damage to each other. That damage is not even considered combat damage (not even if the fighting occurs during combat phase).

Yes for deathtouch. Unlike first strike, deathtouch doesn't care about anything except that the source with deathtouch deals damage. It doesn't matter what causes the source of damage to deal it, deathtouch still applies.

May 30, 2013 9:30 p.m.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

May 30, 2013 9:33 p.m.

JasonMB says... #5

So many people were hung up on "fight" when it came out - I had people calling the Judge over to verify I could fight with a summon sick creature and that I could fight and then later attack with the same creature... It's just a spell!

May 31, 2013 11:46 a.m.

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