Do copied spells include kicker costs if paid when cast originally?

Asked by Spook9MM 6 years ago

Using Primal Wellspring  Flip for example, I cast Jilt paying its kicker cost. Does the copy also have kicker added? Or can kicker cost be applied somehow to copies, if not?

Tyrant-Thanatos says... Accepted answer #1

706.10. To copy a spell, activated ability, or triggered ability means to put a copy of it onto the stack; a copy of a spell isnt cast and a copy of an activated ability isnt activated. A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs. (See rule 601, Casting Spells.) Choices that are normally made on resolution are not copied. If an effect of the copy refers to objects used to pay its costs, it uses the objects used to pay the costs of the original spell or ability. A copy of a spell is owned by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell or ability is controlled by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell is itself a spell, even though it has no spell card associated with it. A copy of an ability is itself an ability.

TL;DR Kicker will be copied.

November 30, 2017 5 p.m.

ajclarke says... #2

As a follow-up, for modal spells, assuming we copy it with something that lets you choose new targets, am I correct in saying you could pick the new targets, but the modes are chosen based on the original.

December 1, 2017 9:32 a.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #3

@ajclarke: Right, the modes stay the same. A copy of a spell copies all the choices originally made for it, including modes and targets. So far, every effect in the game that copies spells also specifically allows you to re-select targets (because otherwise they would be kind of dumb and boring), but no effect currently allows for re-selecting modes

December 1, 2017 10:50 a.m. Edited.

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