Creepy Doll/Stuffy Doll, Pariah/Pariah's Shield, multiple of in play
Asked by linkofhyrule 13 years ago
I have an opponent who has a very annoying deck with 3x Creepy Dolls, and 2x each Pariah and Pariah's Shield. As I was reading thru decklists here, I saw Stuffy Doll, thinking of his deck, and replacing his creepys with stuffys. He had at one point all 3 dolls out, and managed to enchant/equip each one with a pariah/shield.
So which Doll gets the damage redirected to it, as they all have the same ability on/at them?
In a case where you have multiple Pariah out, they will all trigger when you get damage. Because you are the owner of all the triggers, you get to decide which goes on the stack first, second, third and fourth.
Then they will resolve top to bottom, so the fourth to come on the stack will absorb all the damage. The other three will still try to resolve, but there will be no damage left to redirect.
So if you stack it right, the Doll you choose will get all the damage poured onto it, and the rest will get none.
April 4, 2012 3:03 p.m.
About the Trample effect: Pariahs wording makes the damage absorb a replacement effect (recognizable by the word "instead").
So assuming that you do not block the creature (at which point the attacker can assign damage to lethal per creature and let the rest through) you will get the full trample and infect damage, which is replaced to -again- the last Pariah put onto the stack.
Since all damage is dealt simultaniously, the Stuffy Doll will indeed die, but since all the damage was redirected, and then dealt, it will just end up with -x/-x in toughness and die to SBA. You will still not get any damage, nor will any of the other Dolls; all the damage that would be dealt has already been dealt, after all...
April 4, 2012 3:07 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #4
Pariah doesn't have any triggered abilities (starts with "when", "whenever", or "at"), and you don't use the stack to decide which one takes precedence. Redirection is a special type of replacement effect (uses "as" or "instead" to describe the effect), and if multiple replacement effects would apply to a single event, the affected player or controller of the affected object decides what order to apply them in.
If a player who controls multiple Pariah-ed creatures is dealt damage, he chooses one of the Pariah effects to apply to the damage. After the damage is redirected by that replacement effect, the other Pariah effects can't be applied to the event anymore (because the player isn't taking damage anymore), so they get ignored.
For the trample question, all of the damage stays on whatever Pariah-ed creature it gets redirected to. You don't re-assign the combat damage afterwards.
April 4, 2012 3:54 p.m.
I stand corrected, thanks [[rhadamanthus] for clearing up the workings of redirection. :)
April 4, 2012 4:44 p.m.
if this is a casual deck, you could use Guilty Conscience with Stuffy Doll for an infinite loop combo.
linkofhyrule says... #1
Ok, I think i figured out the question there myself: use the stack as your friend, last one on gets hit.
My bro thought up this:
you swing with a creature with Trample and Infect. the Infect obviously will kill the dolls that get hit by it. But does the trample portion of that damage continue on to the other Pariah'd dolls, as the remaining damage A) get passed on to the remaining Pariah abilities, B) go straight to the face of the defender, or C) fizzle, as it's a redirect onto the first doll, and she takes it all?
April 4, 2012 3:01 p.m.