Copying Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker's creature
Asked by Renaud 11 years ago
My opponent cast Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker , and does his +1
I make a copy with my Artisan of Forms
At that point, I'm not sure what's happening; do I get a copy of his initial planeswalker form with 4 loyalty counter or do I get him as a 4/4 flying indestructible dragon?
IF I get him as an animated creature, will he stay in that form permanently, or will he go back to his planeswalker form at the end of turn?
robjameshunter says... #3
Can i double check this interaction.Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker seems like a unique planeswalker due to his +1 ability changing his card type to creature and he loses his planeswalker type until end of turn.
Therefore if he is targeted with the ability from Artisan of Forms, the cloned creature will not have any planeswalker type and will just be a 4/4 flying, indestructible dragon with haste.
I understand this is a unique interaction due to Sarkhan losing his planeswalker type.
January 2, 2015 9:38 p.m.
robjameshunter says... #4
*editSort of half worked it through with a friend, we understand that it still copies the actual card but just has 0 loyalty due to the ability?
January 2, 2015 9:44 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
The starting loyalty number tells how many loyalty counters the planeswalker enters the battlefield with. Turning something already on the battlefield into a copy of a planeswalker doesn't make it re-enter the battlefield, so it doesn't get any starting loyalty counters.
I thought my original response explained this, but I guess it wasn't clear enough.
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1
A copy effect copies everything written on the original, the results of any other copy effects the original is currently subject to, and nothing else. In your example you'll have a regular Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker planeswalker with 0 loyalty counters... which is not a good thing.
In this specific example the 0 loyalty is because Artisan of Forms isn't entering the battlefield as a copy of Sarkhan, so it doesn't get the starting loyalty that a planeswalker card normally enters with. If you were somehow able to Flash in a Clever Impersonator while Sarkhan was still a dragon, it would enter as a regular planeswalker Sarkhan with 4 starting loyalty.
October 9, 2014 11:33 a.m.