Control magic 2 situations

Asked by omgyoav 13 years ago

What happens if a there are two control magics on a creature (played by two different players) does the second one ovveride the first? Also what happens when you gain control of a control magic (aura thief for example) do you now gain control of the creature it is enchanting?

xo2 says... #1

The player who played the second Control Magic would control the creature.

August 27, 2011 5:24 p.m.

Gamer7129 says... #2

The last spell to resolve is the one that counts. So the controller of the second Control Magic would control the creature.

As for the second situation, The controller of the enchantment controls the creature.

August 27, 2011 5:46 p.m.

gheridarigaaz says... #3

the latter contol overrides the prior, and when "you" is mentioned it refers to the controller, otherwise it's the "owner" which refers to the one who played the card in the first place or put it into their deck

August 27, 2011 6:06 p.m.

gheridarigaaz says... #4

the latter contol overrides the prior, and when "you" is mentioned it refers to the controller, otherwise it's the "owner" which refers to the one who played the card in the first place or had it itn their deck at the start of the game

August 27, 2011 6:07 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #5

Control-changing effects are applied in Layer 2:

Any effect which would change the controller of the object youre evaluating. Any ability or spell that generates this type of effect should contain the word "Control."

Since multiple control effects are being applied, the following rule is used:

613.6. Within a layer or sublayer, determining which order effects are applied in is usually done using a timestamp system. An effect with an earlier timestamp is applied before an effect with a later timestamp.

Therefore, the most recently-played Control Magic would apply last, giving its controller control of the enchanted creature.

If you gain control of a Control Magic, you gain control of the creature it enchants as far as that particular enchantment is concerned (the layer system still applies, so if you gained control of a Control Magic that was not the most recently played on a single creature, the most recent would still override it). Note the following rule:

109.5. The words "you" and "your" on an object refer to the object's controller, its would-be controller (if a player is attempting to play, cast, or activate it), or its owner (if it has no controller). For a static ability, this is the current controller of the object it's on. For an activated ability, this is the player who activated the ability. For a triggered ability, this is the controller of the object when the ability triggered, unless it's a delayed triggered ability. To determine the controller of a delayed triggered ability, see rules 603.7df.

August 27, 2011 8:35 p.m.

Jimmeh92 says... #6

To note, some different versions of control exchange cards have different wordings, so don't just take that it is gospel that as long as you control the entity controlling the target, you control that target. For example, Sower of Temptation steals a Rafiq of the Many , and next turn, Domestication is cast upon the Sower, first, the Sower's controller gains control of Rafiq. Then, the Domestication's controller gains control of the Sower, but the original controller of the Sower (The one that generated the effect) keeps control of Rafiq. So while the above comments are correct, and as far as I know, apply to most situations, be wary of the wording.

August 28, 2011 1:59 a.m.

when in doubt, use the stack.

August 28, 2011 3:14 p.m.

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