Complex Question about Magosi
Asked by timeishell 13 years ago
Alright, I know I've asked a lot of questions about Magosi, the Waterveil but it is detrimental to my deck, anyway If I were to use Magosi, the Waterveil s ability to tap it and gain an eon counter, skipping my next turn, then untap it with Deserted Temple and tap it again for the extra turn ability and copy it with Rings of Brighthearth would the first instance of skip and take extra turn cancel each other out, leaving me with 1 extra turn?
timeishell says... #2
Awesome, thanks man I had no idea I was using detrimental wrong all these years. XD
December 20, 2011 6:59 a.m.
mozerdozer says... #3
As a general rule of thumb for new magic players - Magosi is a terrible card and is just not good. It's good for casual play but it's impossible to make efficient use of it.
December 20, 2011 10:18 a.m.
Time Vault is the original Magosi, except that its rulings have a lot of holes in them, which is why it is so easy to break (Voltaic Key ). Magosi closed up all the loopholes, so the only way to use it is to use it fairly, and it isn't a good effect when you play fair.
December 20, 2011 10:33 a.m.
ArkhangelAzrael says... #5
Well, I took the challenge to try and make Magosi, the Waterveil viable at least in casual. Take a look. deck:magosi-abuse
KorApprentice says... Accepted answer #1
First of all, detrimental means bad. Second, this should clear everything up. From the MTG Gatherer on Magosi, the Waterveil :
10/1/2009 - If you somehow activate Magosi's third and fourth abilities during the same turn, the effects will cancel each other out. The turn you skip is the next one you would take, which is the turn created by Magosi's fourth ability. It doesn't matter in which order the abilities resolved.
Meaning your next turn is skipped no matter what, but the 'extra turn' you would be taking happens that turn, so it is skipped. However, since you copied it with Rings of Brighthearth and resolved 'Take an extra turn after this one' twice, those turns will be taken in reverse order. From the MTG Comprehensive Rulebook:
500.7. Some effects can give a player extra turns. They do this by adding the turns directly after the current turn. If a player gets multiple extra turns or if multiple players get extra turns during a single turn, the extra turns are added one at a time. The most recently created turn will be taken first.
Then it would happen exactly as you described. The first interaction of activating Magosi, the Waterveil 's 3rd and 4th ability in the same turn would cancel that extra turn, but you would still get the extra turn from the Rings copy. End result: You get 1 extra turn after this one.
December 20, 2011 6:51 a.m.