Cloning Dark Depths with Thespians Stage = 1 mana 20/20?

Asked by ManiacalPotato 10 years ago

If I use Thespian's Stage's land clone ability on Dark Depths, Does the clone immediately turn into a 20/20 indestructible since it technically doesn't enter the battlefield and thus has no ice counters on it?

nobu_the_bard says... #1

Thespian's Stage & Dark Depths

Yes. I'm told it's practically a Legacy staple, at least for some decks now, but I see it a lot in EDH. I know a guy that does this all the time in nearly every deck. Just keep in mind you end up putting one Dark Depths in the graveyard and sacrificing the other one (that is actually Thespian's Stage).

June 30, 2014 3:22 p.m.

nobu_the_bard says... #2

Oh and I assumed you equated saccing a land for 1 mana but if you meant the activation cost, I should point out Thespian's Stage 's copy ability costs 2 not 1. Just thought I'd be sure.

June 30, 2014 3:24 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #3

Link all cards in your question. There's a formatting guide at the bottom of the page.
Thespian's Stage
Dark Depths

Yes. When Thespian's Stage 's ability resolves, it will become a copy of Dark Depths . Because it has no ice counters on it, the copy will then generate a state-based trigger from its last ability. When the copy ability completely resolves, if you control both the original Dark Depths and the Thespian's Stage copy, you'll put one Dark Depths into its owner's graveyard as a state-based action. Then, you'll put the SBT onto the stack.

When the SBT resolves, if you didn't already put the Thespian's Stage copy of Dark Depths into its owner's graveyard, you will sacrifice the Thespian's Stage copy of Dark Depths and put your Marit Lage token onto the battlefield.

June 30, 2014 3:26 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #4

"State-based trigger" has no meaning within the context of MtG. Dark Depths ability is a state trigger, which can also be called a state-triggered ability. The comprehensive rules actually make a point of it not using the words "state-based".

June 30, 2014 5:37 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

I stand corrected. I don't really see a reason to call one state-based and the other state, though. The chance of confusion is relatively minimal; players are probably more likely to call them state-based triggers and understand the concept (see above) than to ascribe any significance to the one-word difference.

June 30, 2014 6:38 p.m.

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