Can you have Karn Liberated and Karn, Silver Golem out at the same time?
Asked by Skull_Creed 13 years ago
Just glanced at a "brown" deck and saw both in there. I was curious about it. I'm just wondering if you could have the planeswalker version of a card and the legend version out at the same time. Same goes for Venser and etc. I know about the Legend and Walker ruling before you try bashing me for that. Thanks
mozerdozer says... #2
I checked, Karn and Venser are the only Planeswalkers to have Legendary Creature counterparts so I'm not sure why you put the etc.
June 28, 2011 11:58 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #3
The planeswalker rule checks two planeswalkers to see if both share a subtype (Jace, Karn, Chandra, etc.). In this case, there is only one planeswalker with the subtype Karn.
The legend rule checks two legendary creatures to see if both share a name (Karn, Silver Golem and a second Karn, Silver Golem, for example). In this case, there is only one creature on the battlefield with the name Karn, Silver Golem.
You could have Glissa Sunseeker and Glissa, the Traitor out at the same time if you want. So long as they do not have the same name, they are fine.
June 29, 2011 12:25 a.m.
Epochalyptik is right.
Also on copying objects, the name is a copiable value. So a cloned legendary creature will die along with the clone because they are both legendary and have the same name.
June 29, 2011 6:44 a.m.
emblasochist says... #5
This all hinges upon, of course, no Mirror Gallery being in play.
June 29, 2011 7:08 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #6
@mozerdozer, Nicol Bolas is another character with a Legend/Planeswalker pair.
mozerdozer says... #1
You can have them both at the same time. The state based effects say if two creatures are both legendary and have the same name, they are put into their owner's graveyards and if two planeswalkers have the same type, they are both put into their owner's graveyard. Neither of these rules applies in this situation.
June 28, 2011 11:56 p.m.