can i still produce zombies with Overseer of the Damned even if wiped with Child of Alara?
Asked by metalmustaine 9 years ago
i can choose how it stacks right?
Gidgetimer says... #2
Your question is a bit vaguely worded and so I am working on an assumption here. If Overseer of the Damned enters and you have him kill a Child of Alara controlled by your opponent both the Overseer's zombie ability and Child's wrath ability will trigger. Triggers go on the stack in APNAP order so, assuming that you cast the Overseer on your turn and not with flash, The overseer's ability will go on the stack first with Child's ability above it. The Child's ability will resolve first killing everything. At this time Overseer's ability triggers for each non-token creature that your opponents had that was killed by Child's ability. After all those triggers resolve the one from Killing the Child with Overseer's ETB will resolve.
Relevent rules:
603.3b If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player, in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities he or she controls on the stack in any order he or she chooses.
603.6d Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions. Continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities must be treated specially. Leaves-the-battlefield abilities, abilities that trigger when a card leaves a graveyard, abilities that trigger when a permanent phases out, abilities that trigger when an object that all players can see is put into a hand or library, abilities that trigger specifically when an object becomes unattached, abilities that trigger when a player loses control of an object, and abilities that trigger when a player planeswalks away from a plane will trigger based on their existence, and the appearance of objects, prior to the event rather than afterward.
November 11, 2015 10:25 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #3
@metalmustaine: As you've been active since these responses were provided, I'm going to request that you mark an answer as selected or provide additional detail so that we can offer more relevant answers.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
Choosing how something stacks here isn't relevant.
Child of Alara's ability only destroys things when it resolves. At that time, all nonland permanents are destroyed simultaneously. You don't get to choose an order because the ability doesn't specify that you do. Your Overseer of the Damned is destroyed at the same time as your opponent's creatures.
However, permanents that die see other permanents that are dying simultaneously. Overseer of the Damned's ability will trigger for each creature your opponent controls that dies.
November 11, 2015 10:23 a.m.