Board wipe and Guardian Beast/Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

Asked by Ken 13 years ago

I have artifacts on the board, none of which are inherently indestructible, along with Child of AlaraMTG Card: Child of Alara and Guardian BeastMTG Card: Guardian Beast. Child of Alara dies, killing guardian beast. Does this make the artifacts go to the graveyard as well, or are they indestrucable at the time of the wipe, so they service?

Similarly, chils of alara dies while Mikaeus, the UnhallowedMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is out, do other creatures come back because they have undying at time of death, or do they lose it on the way to graveyard so they do not come back?

Ken says... #1

they survive*

April 12, 2012 2:45 p.m.

KorApprentice says... Accepted answer #2

Permanents still "see" each other if they leave the battlefield at the same time, so yes to both. In fact, Guardian BeastMTG Card: Guardian Beast says right on the card if your artifacts would be destroyed at the same time as Guardian BeastMTG Card: Guardian Beast, they are not destroyed. In the second case, everything would still see that Mikaeus, the UnhallowedMTG Card: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed was giving your creatures undying, so they would all trigger and come back if they didn't have any +1/+1 counters on them.

April 12, 2012 2:53 p.m.

GoblinsInc says... #3

Your artifacts survive (the noncreature ones). When the ability tries to destroy them, they are indestructible. Them losing indestructible shortly after will not make the game recheck/try to destroy them again.

Also yes, the undying from mikaeus will trigger for creatures dying at the same time as mikaeus

April 12, 2012 2:54 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #4

If a permanent is indestructible at the time a destruction effect is applied to it, it is not destroyed. At the time Child of AlaraMTG Card: Child of Alara's destruction effect would destroy all nonland permanents, your artifacts are indestructible and will survive, even if the thing making them indestructible (Guardian BeastMTG Card: Guardian Beast is also destroyed.

When a creature dies, its last-known information is used to determine what effects, if any, apply. In the second case, all of your nonhuman creatures had undying when they went to the graveyard, so those abilities trigger. Even though they lose undying once they hit the yard, the abilities are still on the stack and will return the appropriate creatures when they resolve.

April 12, 2012 2:55 p.m.

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