Why not Simply Make Space: the Convergence a Reality, at this Point?
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Posted on March 2, 2025, 5:19 p.m. by DemonDragonJ
Magic: the Gathering has been slowly delving into genres outside of traditional medieval fantasy for many years, now, but Edge of Eternities is full science fiction/space fantasy, and I feel that it is too far removed from traditional fantasy for this game, so why does WotC not simply make Space: the Convergence a real product, at this point? I know that S:tC was originally intended as a joke, but there have been numerous times in the past when something that WotC originally intended as a joke became real, so I do not see why Space: the Convergence cannot become real, as well.
What does everyone else say, about this? Why does WotC not simply make Space: the Convergence a real product, now, instead of blending genres with Edge of Eternity?
DemonDragonJ says... #3
Crow_Umbra, that makes sense, to me, so that is a very good explanation.
March 2, 2025 6:45 p.m.
wallisface says... #4
All the points Crow_Umbra have made are excellent. But also added to this, Wotc have no financial gain/reason to release this as an entirely different game - doing so would just mean throwing away a ton of profits, it would make no business sense.
The people designing/creating this set have a job to also create Mtg, not create some other game entirely.
March 3, 2025 1:47 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #5
wallisface, that does make sense, but I would prefer that M:tG have its own identity, rather than merely being a collage of pop culture references; it is good to expand beyond traditional fantasy, but EoE is simply going too far, for my liking; has WotC yet explained how they had the idea for this set?
March 3, 2025 8:35 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #6
"I would prefer that M:tG have its own identity, rather than merely being a collage of pop culture references"
MtG is 30 years worth of re-skinning some form of mythology, pop culture references, various tropes, the Three Kingdoms Era of China for Portal Three Kingdoms, etc. We are well past the point of MtG designers pulling from a Myriad of cultural references beyond just pop culture ones.
"has WotC yet explained how they had the idea for this set?"
I know it's stated in the wiki article from my first comment, can't remember if it was stated elsewhere, but it's pretty clear that EoE is drawing pretty heavily from Space Operas in general. MaRo might have called it the "Space Opera" set before it was more officially revealed, either on Blogatog or one of the teasers at a Con last year.
MaRo has his list of unvisited planes that players request, usually on Blogatog. "Outerspace World" has def made that shortlist, along with other trope-y worlds like "Water World".
The media we consume is an amalgamation of concepts that borrow from and build upon all manner of past works and mythologies.
March 3, 2025 8:53 p.m.
wallisface says... #7
DemonDragonJ the response above written by Crow_Umbra above already covers every i’d wanted to say in more eloquent writing.
March 3, 2025 9:42 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #8
Crow_Umbra, yes, that makes sense, so I shall withhold any further judgement until WotC begins to reveal cards from the set.
Crow_Umbra says... #2
Given that Edge of Eternities draws heavy inspiration from the Space Opera genre of sci-fi, I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility for it to be Magic, instead of of Space: the Convergence.
Two of the most famous Space Operas are the Star Wars and Dune, both of which blend various elements of high fantasy and sci-fi. It's not out of the realm of imagination for Jedi to read as "Space Wizards", or the Houses of Dune to read like royal courts from a setting with knights and magic.
The Destiny franchise, which is also listed as a Space Opera features technology which is incredibly advanced, centered on weapons and armor treated with mythical reverence. Compared to Star Wars and Dune, its advanced technology reads the most like magic, and often borders on magic, depending on the factions in the franchise. I call out Destiny and Dune specifically, because the armors present in the EoE teaser article bear similarities to the armor aesthetics of both franchises.
I think that the blend of Sci-fi and fantasy is ultimately tied together by Clarke's third law that "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
March 2, 2025 6:28 p.m.