what does "win con" mean
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Posted on Dec. 9, 2013, 4:08 p.m. by patrickloyd
what does the term "win con" mean. i know you can answer this no problem but i am a newbie and i have no clue what it means so please fill me in?
Generally, win con is a term reserved for slower decks or decks that win based on a few cards. AEtherling is a great example of a win con. It'd normally be used in an Esper deck along with Blood Baron of Vizkopa . Usually win cons are cards that finish off a deck's mana curve and have devastating abilities. However, fast decks usually don't have specific win cons. For example, a Boros aggro deck would just drop any and all creatures they have to beat face as quickly as possible.
December 9, 2013 4:19 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
The Deck Help forum is for help with specific decks. Moved to General.
December 9, 2013 4:47 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
@acbooster: I disagree with your definition. A win condition is any condition that leads you to a victory. It's a self-defining term. Aggro decks use burn or low-cost creatures as win conditions. Control decks use attrition or large finishers as win conditions. A win condition doesn't have to finish off a man curve, nor is it limited to slow decks.
December 9, 2013 4:49 p.m.
KrazyCaley says... #7
@patrickloyd - I think a term everyone can agree on is "how your deck wins." AEtherling is indeed usually a primary win con in decks where it appears.
December 9, 2013 4:51 p.m.
I guess I didn't explain it how I meant to.
What I meant to say is that slower decks tend to have one or two cards that are their defined "win con" while faster decks tend to have the entire deck be able to win.
December 9, 2013 6:29 p.m.
It gets a bit confusing because some decks (like aggro) have situations where nearly every card is a win condition - because it can win you the game. In control decks they may only have AEtherling or something similar as a wincon. There is further argument about whether some lockdowns are win conditions. For example - Me and Epoch were once arguing with someone about whether destroying all of somebodies land is a win condition. Technically it's not - because they won't lose BUT most of the time they will just concede to you because it's an inescapable position. The term wincon is therefore fairly flexible, especially in combo decks, where you do things that may not instantly win you the game but it puts the opponent in a position where they almost certainly can't.
December 9, 2013 6:30 p.m.
Right. Curse of Exhaustion and Possibility Storm is a good example of a lockdown that rotated out not too long ago.
iBryguy says... #2
It's short for win condition. Essentially, it's however your deck is going to win. Sometimes, especially with combo decks, decks will have a few cards which they rely upon to win.
December 9, 2013 4:11 p.m.