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I don't know if that Edgar list is as effective as it would be in 1v1. I still feel like he could fuel a stax list very well with tokens for Contamination, access to Blood Moon, and then the usual stax effects of trinisphere, amethyst, etc.

September 20, 2017 12:45 p.m.

Said on Mill (Frontier)...

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September 20, 2017 12:38 p.m.

@LTmiller I saw that deck and a few other shadowborn storm decks for Athreos, I have been working on him some in the past week, I feel like about 90-93 cards are there in them, but the last few arn't quite right. I will post something once I finish it up.

September 16, 2017 6:06 p.m.

The best ramos shells i have seen have been food chain and storm. The food chain route uses mysthollow or scourge, but you can now convert this all into mana used for any spell type with ramos. Storm triggers ramos easily, and gives the mana to fuel it. I have not seen anyone run a flicker infinite mana build on him, but a general infinite mana build for him with 2-3 ways and outlets would be good. Probably fc, flicker, and dramatic sceptor.

September 12, 2017 4:26 a.m.

The hackball list takes a few rounds to get used to, the main way for the mana is with Heritage Druid and Nettle Sentinel, this also negates your haste problem as everything keeps coming in. The list then can win by infinite pumps through Great Oak Guardian or if for some reason they angel's grace, you can still timetwister after you have ininite mana while your field is returned to hand and windfall loop with Ewit to mill everyone but yourself since you have more cards in your deck after you shuffled all cards back. There are other lines in there too, it just takes quite a bit of studying. The combo is actually lower in mana to start than the vizier of the menagerie line. Whether it's better than stuffing dramatic sceptor, paradox engine, flash hulk, or food chain mysthollow, people who have tested the list think it might be. Both decks are pretty reliant on Momir, it almost feels like Dralnu with creatures.

September 3, 2017 8:29 p.m.

Said on Momir Vig Hackball...

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Heritage Druid and Nettle Sentinel together generate enough mana for going off with Momir. Very nice list, the hacking idea is fun and probably the most effective way to break him. I am sure momir would love the idea of hacking his dna for the better, being simic that is.

September 3, 2017 2:03 p.m.

So, i am actually going to recomend changing the momir vig list to this one: Momir Vig Hackball. It essentially "hacks" momir's text to replace all instances of blue with green which allows green to tutor to hand now. It has been going off faster than any other momir list we have seen and has continued to impress people in the discord. It has 8 cards that can hack momir and has been very consistent because of it. I would say the list definetly keeps momir at tier 2 instead of dropping him and if it continues to test well, like it is, then possibly tier 1.5 is in his future.

On the note of rashmi, she needs moved up or gaaiv needs moved down, because they are on near equal footing for control.

September 3, 2017 1:54 p.m.

So, the best way to go out with momir is the brostorm infinite pump and swing with great oak guardian loops, i saw a rather good momir deck recently that is probably the best way of running this that used a number of cards to change the text on momir from blue to green essentially hacking him. That deck has impressed people on the discord and has been going off faster. List here: Momir Vig Hackball

September 3, 2017 1:43 p.m.

This deck is pretty cool. I am a big fan of spirit tribal.

September 1, 2017 8:39 p.m.

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