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SkulothZur is by far my favorite commander and I was wondering the importance of some cards to start as I cannot afford them right now. I am lucky I have most of the other cards already
Grim Tutor is there any other tutors you can think that could be a little cheaper than this. Right now the most Im looking to spend on a card is between 50-100
Candelabra of Tawnos I do realize this card can be crazy but what importance do you place on it and is there anything that can replace it.
Timetwister THis is another one that is super spendy
Its basically these 3 cards that are causing me issues budget wise. Everything else is reasonable I believe or I already have it. Can these three be replaced or are they essential to the deck and would hurt the power level?
January 19, 2017 11:54 a.m.
How is my zedruu list now. Putting it up for tier 3 zedruu list.
Zedr(YOU), Zed(WHAT). Average cmc is under 3. Its more stax and controll
Let me know.
I know possibility storm is expensive cmc. But it's a lock piece
January 18, 2017 10:48 p.m.
The answer is yes. You can dredge anytime you could draw. So I can dr she one and draw one. U can dredge twice. U can dredge not at all
January 17, 2017 8:09 a.m.
Hey. I am a huge fan of anyone who runs zedruu.
If you want some ideas check out my Version. Insult a competitive version of zedruu. And it can stop creature heavy decks as well he combo heavy meta as well
January 15, 2017 2:56 p.m.
NarejED also, do you think the rishadan cards are still worth it for the steep mana curve.
January 14, 2017 7:45 p.m.
Would you say this deck is still up to date. I am thinking of making a brago deck and it seems like a good start. Of course Id throw my own flavor in there.
January 14, 2017 6:56 p.m.
Lets say I am in a 3 man pod (player A, B, C) I am player CSo I have donated Illusions of Grandeur to opponent A.
Then opponent B kills me. When I die, all cards that I own leave play right ?
This would mean that Illusions of Grandeur leaves play, but does it also mean opponent A looses 20 life because of that ? Or do my cards just kinda stop to exist ?
January 12, 2017 5:14 a.m.
HEy NarejED I want to submit my deck to you here to see what other changes you think I need to make my deck the gold standard for tier 3 zedruu.
Average CMC of the deck is 3.02.
January 12, 2017 3:11 a.m.
Scenario one: Neither creature will damage. Once a creature is considered blocked, it is blocked even if the creature that blocks it dies. The only situation in which a creature that has been blocked will do damage is if it has trample. For instance if Charging Badger attacked and was blocked but the blocker was killed. IT will do one damage because it doesnt have to assign any damage to the creature that died and the one can hit the player
Scenario 2: If you kill the creature before blockers are declared, you do not need to declare any blockers. A creature not in play can not assign any combat damage.
Scenario 3: Since typhoid rats was already a blocker at the time it was tapped, it is still blocking the creature and they both die. IF they used it before the declare blockers step then it couldnt block.
Scenario 4: You will still need to block if you do not want to take damage. Untapping a creature does not remove it from combat unless it specifically says it does Maze of Ith.
Scenario 5: This one depends on how it was played it. Sometimes players shortcut and saygoing to combat and show what creatures they are going to attack without passing priority. You have to pass priority as you enter combat, once in combat active player has priority and can declare attackers before NAP is able to respond. The tournament official will probably say back up the short cut before entering combat, if it is a higher end torunement (PTQ, PT, GP) you
January 10, 2017 5:55 p.m.
I will keep my actual paper deck separate. Thanks
January 10, 2017 1:01 a.m.
Sounds good. I will do that and submit it to you tomorrow. NarejED
January 10, 2017 12:43 a.m.
Love-in-Theory I have revamped my deck a little and took some things out and put some in. if you want to check it out.
btw have you seen any other competitive zedruu decks. Doesn't seem to be very many running around.
I added Worship as it is great against any creature heavy agro deck. most of the time we will at least have 1 creature on board.
Sphere of Resistance slows combo decks down as they are usually on point or the exact mana they need.
Stony Silence shuts down most artifact heavy decks.
Well take a look at let me know what you think. I cut my average CMC down to 3.06 from a 3.6.
January 9, 2017 11:02 p.m.
NarejED ok I revamped my Zedruu the Greathearted deck with cards I actually acquired. I am submitting it again for the tier 3 zedruu spot. Zedr(YOU), Zed(WHAT). (this deck is everything I own in paper)
Average CMC is 3.06. Relatively low for a zedruu deck. I could make it lower, but it takes out some key lock pieces I did get the suggestions you said earlier as well as some of the ones I already planned on inserting.
Like I said earlier. This deck has been tested against tier 1 and 2 decks as there are a few in my meta.
Beyond that, I feel like it is complete. Any extra advice please let me know. Or PM me.
I put it up for voting.
January 9, 2017 9:35 p.m.
Jokester1393 you are right, it does count the colors on lands. But fetch lands are different as they dont have any mana symbols, just text.
and because it has no mana symbols , teh color identity is colorless.
January 8, 2017 12:45 a.m.
Mqhartley you are right, that is some good spot removal. I am not as worried about that as much as I am more focused on controlling the board. I like to be proactive rather than reactive.
January 7, 2017 6:50 p.m.
No problem, I love zedruu the greathearted and feel she is under rated than most people think.
January 6, 2017 9:37 p.m.
well if you have Hive Mind on board already and cast Enduring Ideal that should guarantee the win. First two cards I would get though are Arcane Laboratory and Possibility Storm. Those lock all players out of the game from casting spells anymore. But you get to keep using Enduring Ideal as it puts a copy on the stack and you are not casting it. if you get that out and there is no threats then you can get Luminarch Ascension and start getting some cratures. Also you can get Form of the Dragon and give it away. Hell you can attack with Zedruu commander damage depending on what the board looks like. Stranglehold would be a good one to keep those from searching for answers to stop you. Once you have enough enchantments you can get Opalescence then you use Homeward Path to get back everything you gave away and swing with a ton of enchantments.
January 6, 2017 8:57 p.m.
Its getting better. A card I really like is Form of the Dragon I think is better than the idol, as the idol does two damage but you are never going to win with it. It is just an annoyance th 40 life doesn't do much.
Humble Defector is another card I don't really like. yes I see it in lot of zedruu builds but if you are playing competitive zedruu, I don't think it is worth it. IT gives you two cards but then helps out your opponentAnd more than likely they will use it and just give it ba to you so you don't get any extra advantage out of it.
I do like this build better than the last one though. Keep it up fellow zedruu player
January 6, 2017 8:39 p.m.
NarejED I do agree with the more staxish cards like Sphere of Resistance and Stony Silence prob def going to pick them up. I posted this deck as it is right now and not what the finish project is going to look like. If need be, I can change the deck to the finished product thought then it wouldn't be a deck I own.
But as far as you say it is missing a lot, I do not believe that is as true.
While I don't have the aforementioned cards, I do have cards like Mana Maze and In the Eye of Chaos. I have in the mail cards like Stranglehold which can hose a lot of decks. in the mid to late game, I have Dovescape and at that point there goes every combo deck.
WHile I do have the stax element, I also have the control element and card advantage in Consecrated Sphinx, Cyclonic Rift, Mana Drain, Cryptic Command the various tutors I have to assemble any piece I need in that moment. the various artifacts that help me control what I am going to draw. Sensei's Divining Top Scroll Rack
I am thinking even a Rest in Peace as a lot of decks have some sort o recursion out of the graveyard.
Also building a deck on paper is a lot different then play testing. I have tested some cards and traded them out for others because they were just dead draws and I would have liked something in that place.
I may be biased and I can see that, but I am trying to write an unbiased view.
I do think it is missing some cards but not many. Compared to a lot of zedruu decks though it is the most competitive I have seen and also has been play tested against some of the top tier generals.
lets continue the debate :D
January 6, 2017 8:30 p.m.
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